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re: Does anyone think unity is even possible?
Posted on 1/15/22 at 2:53 pm to Thundercles
Posted on 1/15/22 at 2:53 pm to Thundercles
Part of the problem is that they aren’t “libs” yet stupid party Republicans still call these fascists “liberal.” Start calling these people what they are, fascists, and you will see less people supporting them.
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Posted on 1/15/22 at 2:54 pm to Thundercles
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Does anyone think unity is even possible?
The question was, was multicultural unity ever possible?
But we can LARP as anything for a bit if we want
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Posted on 1/15/22 at 2:55 pm to AussieRock
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No Unity requires shared overall values. I value Freedom. Liberals do not The end.
Liberals value freedom. They are very few liberals in the American left these days. The American left are predominantly fascists and communists. Fascists and commies hate freedom.
Posted on 1/15/22 at 3:01 pm to Snoop Dawg
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Fascists and commies hate freedom.
Fascists hate communists.
Fascism is really the opposite of libertarianism. It is strong republican social values with more liberal financial values. Libertarianism is weak republican social values with strong liberal social values.
Posted on 1/15/22 at 3:02 pm to zatetic
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Fascists hate communists.
Fascism is really the opposite of libertarianism. It is strong republican social values with more liberal financial values. Libertarianism is weak republican social values with strong liberal social values.
Don’t let their name fool you. The Left are fascists at this point.
Posted on 1/15/22 at 3:04 pm to OMLandshark
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Don’t let their name fool you. The Left are fascists at this point.
They aren't. They are marxists. It isn't even close.
Posted on 1/15/22 at 3:05 pm to zatetic
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They aren't. They are marxists. It isn't even close.
I don't think it's necessary to pigeonhole.
I think the intervening decades between the height of Marxism and the height of Nazism has led us to a new blend that may even require it's own new term.
Contrary to bull shite taught in our education system, BOTH of those ideologies were leftist. So, we shouldn't be surprised to see them coalesce.
Posted on 1/15/22 at 3:08 pm to zatetic
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Fascists hate communists.
Fascists hateD communists...............until they figured out how to blend the two.
Posted on 1/15/22 at 3:08 pm to Thundercles
Absolutely not. American Marxists are our enemy & will forever be plotting our demise.
Coexisting with the enemy is not possible.
Coexisting with the enemy is not possible.
This post was edited on 1/15/22 at 3:14 pm
Posted on 1/15/22 at 3:08 pm to Thundercles
Yes.
We win, they lose.
On to the next thing
We win, they lose.
On to the next thing
Posted on 1/15/22 at 3:10 pm to Thundercles
NO!
The DEMLIBS do not want anything to do with conservative values, so frick them.
The DEMLIBS do not want anything to do with conservative values, so frick them.
Posted on 1/15/22 at 3:10 pm to Thundercles
Humans are not built to achieve Harmony with each other. We have tribal instincts. The idea of a utopia where everyone is happy and content is impossible.
Posted on 1/15/22 at 3:11 pm to PiscesTiger
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100 years ago at this time, people were just affording cars on credit and a war had just ended.
100 years ago the gap of knowledge between regular working class people and the most advanced technology of that time was relatively small, you could explain to a farmer how a combustion engine works and they could take it from there ..today the regular street level American is clueless about how their automobile’s steering and brake control system work. Some still think their accelerator and brake are a direct mechanical connection to the engine and brakes….lol!
Posted on 1/15/22 at 3:11 pm to OMLandshark
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With DeSantis I think it’s possible if unlikely we could convince actual liberals that the Leftists and communists are our mutual enemy and we need to put aside our differences on tax policy to destroy them, then unity would be possible.
They will vilify him just as they did Trump.
Posted on 1/15/22 at 3:12 pm to Thundercles
Here's the deal.
At different points in history, there were probably a lot of:
People who hoped to have "unity" as the Nazis rose up
As the Marxists rose up
As the Khmer Rouge Rose up
As the Maoists rose up
As Castro rose
As Chavez rose
The reality is, you can't have unity with people who seek not only to win, but to eradicate your ideas from the landscape of consideration.
And, in each case, you can bet many Maoist, Marxists, etc etc in the rank and file didn't even know they were on the road to murder. The problem is, their ideology inevitably leads to it.
In the simplest terms, a Marxist can't allow the individual man to sell his own apples and if he insists on doing so, then he'll just have to die.
At different points in history, there were probably a lot of:
People who hoped to have "unity" as the Nazis rose up
As the Marxists rose up
As the Khmer Rouge Rose up
As the Maoists rose up
As Castro rose
As Chavez rose
The reality is, you can't have unity with people who seek not only to win, but to eradicate your ideas from the landscape of consideration.
And, in each case, you can bet many Maoist, Marxists, etc etc in the rank and file didn't even know they were on the road to murder. The problem is, their ideology inevitably leads to it.
In the simplest terms, a Marxist can't allow the individual man to sell his own apples and if he insists on doing so, then he'll just have to die.
Posted on 1/15/22 at 3:12 pm to zatetic
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They aren't. They are marxists. It isn't even close.
They want what China has. China is no longer communist but fascist. How do I define a fascist? I’ll let Benito Mussolini tell you:
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“Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power.”
That is the modern Leftist. They’ve fooled some actual Marxists into joining them, but make no mistake that they are actual fascists.
Posted on 1/15/22 at 3:12 pm to Thundercles
No
Posted on 1/15/22 at 3:14 pm to AussieRock
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Contrary to bull shite taught in our education system, BOTH of those ideologies were leftist. So, we shouldn't be surprised to see them coalesce.
I can't understand how you would think fascism is leftist. It is a middle ground like libertarianism is. Fascism has high marks to the right on social values, more so than even the generic republican of today. But they did have a more welfare (for lack of better word) based economic system than the right does today. Fascism is national populism. It is basically what Trump ran on, but didn't carry out, with his Presidency.
And they don't coalesce and will never. One was started to be anti the other. I get that most people will never actually look at what the breakdown of what fascism was because they continue to believe the bullshite.
Posted on 1/15/22 at 3:16 pm to Bass Tiger
quote:Wait, wut? The hell you say!! (Just kidding)
Some still think their accelerator and brake are a direct mechanical connection to the engine and brakes….lol!
There is another gap that is just as wide.
100 years ago, most people in cities weren't that many generations removed from rural existence. And, even those that were had far closer ties and understanding of the reality that you simply cannot have tightly packed populations absent the existence of rural populations. We recognized our need for each other.
Hell, you don't even have to go back 100 years. Can you, in ANY context, imagine a bunch of liberals jumping on board with and pushing "Farm Aid" in the year 2022? LOL. Liberals fricking HATE the people you'd have seen at an 80s Farm Aid event.
Posted on 1/15/22 at 3:17 pm to OMLandshark
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“Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power.”
That is the modern Leftist. They’ve fooled some actual Marxists into joining them, but make no mistake that they are actual fascists.
So if we are going down this route, Germany was never fascist. It was national socialist, which is outside of marxist socialism. While fascism and national socialism did have government more in the economy than capitalism, fascism and national socialism both have far right social values, which marxism does not have.
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