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re: Does anyone here on this board have the balls to say they oppose weed legalization?

Posted on 1/5/18 at 2:57 pm to
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 1/5/18 at 2:57 pm to
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However, we've spent a trillion on the losing drug war, rehab is muuuuch less expensive


It will add up over time.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 1/5/18 at 2:59 pm to
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It will add up over time.


And the drug war doesn't? It's much cheaper to treat medically than to treat with the CJ system and military
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 1/5/18 at 3:00 pm to
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and make selling druwgs a capital offense


Goddamn commie
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
55747 posts
Posted on 1/5/18 at 3:01 pm to
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Decriminalize everything and in 10 years the value will bottom out and there won't be a reason to import cocaine and heroin.


No. It has been 16 years and they are still active in Portugal.
Posted by LSUintheNW
At your mom’s house
Member since Aug 2009
37014 posts
Posted on 1/5/18 at 3:02 pm to
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No. It has been 16 years and they are still active in Portugal.


Soooo....freedom?

Eta....its illegal in most of Europe, so that has something to do with it. I bet it's cheaper though now.


This post was edited on 1/5/18 at 3:05 pm
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
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Posted on 1/5/18 at 3:02 pm to
What?? Make prison cost zero?? No...
Posted by LSUintheNW
At your mom’s house
Member since Aug 2009
37014 posts
Posted on 1/5/18 at 3:06 pm to
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use the death penalty,and make selling drugs a capital offense


You might enjoy Singapore.

I like freedom.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 1/5/18 at 3:06 pm to







This post was edited on 1/5/18 at 3:11 pm
Posted by CivilTiger83
Member since Dec 2017
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Posted on 1/5/18 at 3:07 pm to
To those making the case for legalization of marijuana, do you think we should make opiod painkillers available over the counter?

Also do you think it has benefitted society to have greater access to painkillers over the past 15 years? Why shouldn't non-addictive painkillers be available like recreational marijuana?
Posted by LSUintheNW
At your mom’s house
Member since Aug 2009
37014 posts
Posted on 1/5/18 at 3:08 pm to
Thanks. I wasn't going to waste my time on this for him. He's clueless. Decriminalization has done wonders for Portugal.
Posted by Guava Jelly
Bawston
Member since Jul 2009
11960 posts
Posted on 1/5/18 at 3:14 pm to
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To those making the case for legalization of marijuana, do you think we should make opiod painkillers available over the counter?



Holy straw man, Batman.
Way to start with literally the absolute worst analogy you possibly could have concocted.

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Why shouldn't non-addictive painkillers be available like recreational marijuana?

Name ONE nonaddictive opiate-based pain killer.











ETA... RTS dropped the mic.
This post was edited on 1/5/18 at 3:16 pm
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 1/5/18 at 3:36 pm to
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So the CDC says 1 in 10 become addicted.
do you know what an understatement is? like 1 in 10 is an acceptable number. did you see the stats for adolescent use? if it's widely legalized, the number of addicted people could climb into the hundreds of thousands. but hey, it's only 1 in 10.

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And everything else below that has the precursor of "*MAY* cause"
first, you label a long list under one moniker to lessen the quantity of adverse effects. then, you downplay the risk of adverse effects. then, you throw caution to the wind instead of being prudent. do you think any of this is wise?

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All that and yet we still have no recorded deaths of long term marijuana use.
so you highlight the uncertainty of the risk and then use that for a claim that no one has died. the obvious question is, how do you know?

there is LOTS of acknowledgement that studying the effects of recreational marijuana use is not easy for multiple reasons. still, that shouldn't deter us from erring on the side of caution.

but i'm probably discussing this with a pothead so i'm not sure what the point is. marijuana can cause irrationality so it's like talking to a brick wall.
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
55747 posts
Posted on 1/5/18 at 3:37 pm to
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And the drug war doesn't? It's much cheaper to treat medically than to treat with the CJ system and military



You keep forgetting the difference. Users. During prohibition, use was down. After, it sky rocketed.

Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 1/5/18 at 3:38 pm to
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First, link to the supposed increased burden
you need a link for this?
Posted by mouton
Savannah,Ga
Member since Aug 2006
28276 posts
Posted on 1/5/18 at 3:39 pm to
You guys are attempting to argue with a guy who claims that hundreds of people fatally overdose from marijuana each year. He also claims to be a medical doctor. The guy is a fricking idiot.
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 1/5/18 at 3:42 pm to
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This is the only one you can argue against. It's not like the drug dealers are going to start a legitimate business, they will just find something else to make illegal income.
why do people act like legalizing weed is going to make the cartel throw their hands up and start selling inflatable jumpers instead? they're just going to take over all the "legal" weed growers through mafia tactics or they're going to resell the legal weed, which they're probably already doing.

so now instead of having just the illegal problem, now we've exacerbated the issue by allowing pretty much anyone to get it at any time. so let's throw gas on the fire. makes sense
Posted by Guava Jelly
Bawston
Member since Jul 2009
11960 posts
Posted on 1/5/18 at 3:42 pm to
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you need a link for this?

Of evidence to support the argument that legalized marijuana constitutes an increased burden on the healthcare system?

Yes. Abso-fricking-lutely, he's gonna have to link.
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
55747 posts
Posted on 1/5/18 at 3:42 pm to
100% BS stats.

Like usage in teens. The world reduced too... without legalizing.
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 1/5/18 at 3:42 pm to
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You cannot stop the flow.
yeah, you're right. let's give up
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
61257 posts
Posted on 1/5/18 at 3:44 pm to
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they're just going to take over all the "legal" weed growers through mafia tactics or they're going to resell the legal weed, which they're probably already doing.


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