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re: Does anyone else find themselves questioning a lot of the Civil Rights propaganda…
Posted on 9/12/25 at 8:00 am to BamaGradinTn
Posted on 9/12/25 at 8:00 am to BamaGradinTn
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I imagine that if your daughter was killed in Sunday School when her church was bombed by a klansman, you probably are not inclined to think the era was contrived.
All of my ancestors did not come here until the early 20th century. They were all Catholic, and my families original Catholic Church (which I grew up in) was burned down by the KKK. I’m not here to say there weren’t bad individuals doing bad things. I’m speaking in broad terms that emphasis they place on our past and how we should be completely shamed of it is exaggerated and has been the basis of the white guilt complex we all have to walk around with.
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Posted on 9/12/25 at 8:01 am to Flats
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I thought you were a libertarian? You don’t believe in private freedom of association?
I do
His post ignored all the institutional racism and segregation, which I do not believe in. Specifically the denial of rights to people based on irrational factors like skin color.
Posted on 9/12/25 at 8:02 am to burger bearcat
quote:This only "makes sense" if you're in the "in" group. If you're the "out" group it doesn't.
Not that it was fake. That it was such a bad thing. The more I look at society and see the behaviors of different groups, it actually seems to make sense
You're making the same mistake the Left makes about conservatives. They take the anomalies and paint the entire group with them. Inevitably, judging people by their traits, affiliations, religion, etc. lead us here. And it's not a good place to be.
Treat (and judge) people as individuals and this stops "making sense".
Posted on 9/12/25 at 8:02 am to SlowFlowPro
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See? I was right.
Point to the part of my proposition that is wrong? Would Jackson be better off if the leadership was provided from the state level?
Posted on 9/12/25 at 8:03 am to VA LSU fan
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Would be lauded by the media and mentally ill alphabet society while we who knew who Charlie was would be outraged.
Just think, we actually had a real Supreme Court nominee (female) testify at her hearing that she didn't know what a woman was. This was not reported as a negative or controversial thing in the MSM. They don't need propaganda movies, these things are taking place in powerful areas of the real world.
Posted on 9/12/25 at 8:04 am to burger bearcat
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Point to the part of my proposition that is wrong?
The denial of fundamental human rights based on skin color or ethnicity is wrong.
Full fricking stop.
Posted on 9/12/25 at 8:04 am to thejuiceisloose
quote:We had a $2 poll tax. They didn't have that to pay to vote. Plus many couldn't read. Voting was kind down their list of things they needed. Plus, they didn't have the numbers to change things. In those years even black "hands" couldn't look their boss in the eyes. If the correct changes were take place, it should have been over years and not a crash course in fixing all of the wrongs. Schools were disasters and then as someone mentioned, the LBJ era did more harm to the black family that can ever be quantified. But remember what he said, they'll be voting Demoncrat for 200 years. But what then followed were the MLKs, Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton, H Rap Brown and I assure you they were looking out for their interests while making demands that sounded good. It was a mess and yes, resistance was massive but they had the wrong leadership to make something could have worked had true altruism was first and foremost.
In 1950, fewer than 2% of Black Americans in Mississippi were registered to vote…. I’m sure they just didn’t want to or something like that
Posted on 9/12/25 at 8:06 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:Yep. It wasn't just Black people that were in the "out" groups. All sorts of socio-economic groups were treated like isht. And no, they didn't want it.
My family (at least for a few hundred years on one side) was not aristocratic or part of the European nobility. If you weren't part of that, you were denied all sorts of basic human rights using the same rhetoric he used ("the plebs don't know any better and wouldn't want the burdens of freedom")
Posted on 9/12/25 at 8:08 am to SlowFlowPro
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See? I was right.
Yeah, you are right he doesn't believe that some people (the ones he chooses) should be able to vote
Posted on 9/12/25 at 8:09 am to burger bearcat
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We were all fed in schools? The whole narrative of a bunch of angry white racists filled with hate. That entire era just seems completely fake and contrived to me, and now I find myself even questioning a lot of the slavery narratives and level of brutality surrounding it compared to anywhere else in the world at the time.
Just look at this half of the posters on this fricking site! Touching grass is beneficial to the mind.
Posted on 9/12/25 at 8:12 am to SlowFlowPro
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The denial of fundamental human rights based on skin color or ethnicity is wrong. Full fricking stop.
Why is voting a fundamental human right? Is it a fundamental human right for a 10 year old to vote? How about someone who is not a citizen? How about someone who mentally incapacitated?
We can sometimes just do the things that we know will work without trying to over legalize and analyze everything. There is a large segment of our current electorate that should not be participating in the process for the good everyone including themselves.
Posted on 9/12/25 at 8:13 am to FearlessFreep
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what advantage was there to being born white in, say, England, France or Germany from the 12th century through the 18th?
i can't speak to that as i wasn't alive but i can tell you back in the day you could spot white trash pretty easily, today it's super east because of the tattoos and the piercings!
Posted on 9/12/25 at 8:15 am to burger bearcat
quote:Saying man should not have the right to self-govern is completely antithetical to our nation's founding. The entire premise of the Declaration of Independence was that man had the God-given right to self govern.
If you truly wanted Jackson to have less crime, murder, and poverty…then the simple answer is to remove their leadership and replace with better leadership and recognize that the citizens of Jackson are not capable of electing effective leaders.
I get what you're saying about voters making bad choices. But it's just another example of how a weaker government is better. If the government has little power, who cares if voters make the "right" choices or not?
In the end... a lot of our problems go back to over-dependency on the government to determine outcomes.
Posted on 9/12/25 at 8:16 am to udtiger
The harsh truth that no one will acknowledge or admit is that, for present day blacks in America, slavery was the greatest thing to happen. It's not even debatable.
Posted on 9/12/25 at 8:17 am to roadkill
Most of the civil rights movement was an attack on property rights
Posted on 9/12/25 at 8:18 am to SlowFlowPro
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His post ignored all the institutional racism and segregation, which I do not believe in.
Ok, it was a bit of a catch-all. There's a big difference between private and government discrimination.
Posted on 9/12/25 at 8:18 am to burger bearcat
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The truth you probably won’t hear, is many black people actually liked segregation
This isn’t true.
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Same with the 19th amendment. Most women at the time did not support it.
No, this is also not true.
Posted on 9/12/25 at 8:19 am to burger bearcat
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many black people actually liked segregation. Then when everything was de-segregated they couldn’t compete, their businesses went under
I don't know if you can justifiably say they liked it but they were comfortable. Segregation wasn't just in the deep south (nor was virulent racism) - look up the Greenwood District of Tulsa and what happened there.
The problem was the forced immediate integration. The black businesses weren't in a position to compete with white businesses but black customers would shop white businesses; white citizens weren't going to utilize black businesses. If the integration had been more gradual (start with schools, let natural relationships develop between the races) you might have had black businesses that could either partner with or merge with white businesses and both owners be successful.
The same could be said of abolition...you are freeing thousands of enslaved people who have no real life skills except for what they were taught in order to carry out their job. Why anyone thought that just saying "go free, live your life," would be anything but a complete and utter failure is beyond me.
Posted on 9/12/25 at 8:21 am to parrothead
There will always be people with agendas that think its an easier path to their end goal to erase things that happen/have happened than to acknowledge them while still trying to reach their end goal.
Its basically a cheat code if they can convince their followers it didnt happen
Its basically a cheat code if they can convince their followers it didnt happen
Posted on 9/12/25 at 8:22 am to SlowFlowPro
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The denial of fundamental human rights based on skin color or ethnicity is wrong.
But nobody agrees on what "fundamental human rights" are.
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