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Does Anyone Believe By Voting Against Trump’s Emergency The Democrats Won’t Use Them?
Posted on 3/15/19 at 6:46 am
Posted on 3/15/19 at 6:46 am
One of the things I hear over and over from the “principled” folk is how Trump cannot be allowed to declare a national emergency for border security because then the Democrats might declare a national emergency for gun violence or climate change in the years ahead.
They then follow with a sigh of relief as if by standing up to this use of emergency powers the executive branch has hereby been limited in power for future Democrat presidents.
As Michael asked Fredo in Tahoe...
“You believed that story?”
I’m reminded of the time when Democrats were stonewalling Bush judicial appointments and republicans fretted and wrung their hands over the “nuclear button option” for years. Should they do it? No, they just can’t because if they do it then Democrats will do it. They don’t want that. So they don’t do it, thereby preventing democrats from doing it in the future for democrat judicial appointments.
Harry Reid commented that “the sanctity and proper Constitutional role of the Senate has been preserved” by the republicans yielding and not pressing the “nuclear button option.”
Then Obama is elected president.
And Harry Reid quickly does this regarding the “nuclear button option.”
Some people never learn and that is why they lose.
They then follow with a sigh of relief as if by standing up to this use of emergency powers the executive branch has hereby been limited in power for future Democrat presidents.
As Michael asked Fredo in Tahoe...
“You believed that story?”
I’m reminded of the time when Democrats were stonewalling Bush judicial appointments and republicans fretted and wrung their hands over the “nuclear button option” for years. Should they do it? No, they just can’t because if they do it then Democrats will do it. They don’t want that. So they don’t do it, thereby preventing democrats from doing it in the future for democrat judicial appointments.
Harry Reid commented that “the sanctity and proper Constitutional role of the Senate has been preserved” by the republicans yielding and not pressing the “nuclear button option.”
Then Obama is elected president.
And Harry Reid quickly does this regarding the “nuclear button option.”
Some people never learn and that is why they lose.
Posted on 3/15/19 at 6:50 am to LuckyTiger
The Devil does not abide by principles, he simply does as he pleases. The Devil has an upper hand in getting control of our world, bc God follows different rules than he does
Posted on 3/15/19 at 6:51 am to LuckyTiger
Do you believe that we should do something that is fundamentally unamerican just because the democrats might also do something that is fundamentally unamerican?
If those pricks are going to stomp all over our constitution, they’ll have do it on their own. I want no part in joining them.
If those pricks are going to stomp all over our constitution, they’ll have do it on their own. I want no part in joining them.
Posted on 3/15/19 at 6:56 am to funnystuff
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Do you believe that we should do something that is fundamentally unamerican just because the democrats might also do something that is fundamentally unamerican?
If those pricks are going to stomp all over our constitution, they’ll have do it on their own. I want no part in joining them.
Protecting the fricking border is now "fundamentally unAmerican".
What a fricking crock of shite.
This is the shite that gets women killed by guys with nine ignored ICE referrals.
Posted on 3/15/19 at 7:02 am to gthog61
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Protecting the fricking border is now "fundamentally unAmerican".
These people just don't get it.
They like bending over and taking it up the arse from Democrats.
They are pussies just like Liberals are . But Liberal pussies stick together , Republican's are too fricking stupid to stick together.
That's why I started calling myself a Conservative years ago because Republican has become a dirty word. It now means right leaning pussy.
Posted on 3/15/19 at 7:04 am to gthog61
Violating the foundational separation of powers is fundamentally unamerican. Do you know the first thing about the design of our government? What a crock of shite.
Posted on 3/15/19 at 7:04 am to 93and99
Some of these same senators were there for the 15 year circle jerk wailing about whether to use the nuclear option, you know, right before Harry Reid did it.
Posted on 3/15/19 at 7:07 am to funnystuff
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If those pricks are going to stomp all over our constitution
You talking about the politicians that supported a wall back in 2006 by passing a bill to do so but then didn't act and uphold that piece of legislation as the constitution dictates?
Posted on 3/15/19 at 7:07 am to LuckyTiger
If Trump does an end run around Congress on the powers of the purse, the US Constitution is officially dead.
Posted on 3/15/19 at 7:11 am to funnystuff
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Violating the foundational separation of powers is fundamentally unamerican
I don't ever call others names, but I'm really close this morning...
quote:
Do you know the first thing about the design of our government?
It is apparent that you are clueless. Clueless is not a name, but rather a descriptive term pertaining to your level of understanding.
Posted on 3/15/19 at 7:12 am to funnystuff
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fundamentally unamerican
Stopped right there...
Posted on 3/15/19 at 7:12 am to Homesick Tiger
I’m talking about the president allocating funds in a way that directly contradicts the specific spending decisions of the legislature. As badly as they may have fricked up in 2006, I’m not in favor of adding another frickup to fix a prior one.
Posted on 3/15/19 at 7:12 am to redneck hippie
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If Trump does an end run around Congress on the powers of the purse, the US Constitution is officially dead.
Exhibit A of a leftist suddenly "concerned" about the Constitution
Posted on 3/15/19 at 7:14 am to gthog61
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Some of these same senators were there for the 15 year circle jerk wailing about whether to use the nuclear option, you know, right before Harry Reid did it.
I know , it's crazy how these people think.
We now have 12 more Republican Senators who join McCain and Flake as traitors.
Posted on 3/15/19 at 7:17 am to redneck hippie
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If Trump does an end run around Congress on the powers of the purse, the US Constitution is officially dead.
Maybe the big boy co-equal branch of government should have thought about that before ceding that power to the executive and creating an Agency state that has been in existence for almost 100 years that is completely antithetical to the Constitution. The time for Congress to preserve the full range of its power from the executive died during the new deal and when the other co-equal branch presented that vampire with garlic, sunlight, and a stake in the heart in Humphrey's Executor.
Posted on 3/15/19 at 7:19 am to LuckyTiger
Hell no. And as far as the R's voting against it, it's just for show. They know the Old Boy will veto it and there aren't enough votes to override. 4-D.
Posted on 3/15/19 at 7:24 am to BestBanker
What does Youngstown Sheet and Tube Co v. Sawyer mean to you?
The case painted a very clear picture of the constitutional extent of executive power:
The case painted a very clear picture of the constitutional extent of executive power:
quote:
“when the President takes measures incompatible with the expressed or implied will of Congress, his power is at its lowest ebb.”
This post was edited on 3/15/19 at 7:29 am
Posted on 3/15/19 at 7:24 am to funnystuff
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Violating the foundational separation of powers is fundamentally unamerican.
Trump's EA is not unconstitutional in the least bit. If it was, then it would be rebuked as such. The idiot right is capitulating because "well the left might do it in the future". Newsflash...THEY WILL DO IT IN THE FUTURE. And it won't be unconstitutional then either, depending on how they use it.
Posted on 3/15/19 at 7:29 am to BugAC
What does Youngstown Sheet and Tube Co v. Sawyer mean to you?
The case painted a very clear picture of the constitutional extent of executive power:
The case painted a very clear picture of the constitutional extent of executive power:
quote:
“when the President takes measures incompatible with the expressed or implied will of Congress, his power is at its lowest ebb.”
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