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Does abortion being legal explain the dramatic drop in violent crime?

Posted on 9/16/21 at 11:13 am
Posted by sabes que
Member since Jan 2010
10156 posts
Posted on 9/16/21 at 11:13 am
About 20 years after Roe v Wade, murder and other violent crimes started a steady and continual decline. Is it a coincidence or what else explains this?
Posted by tharre4
Louisiana
Member since Jan 2015
575 posts
Posted on 9/16/21 at 11:15 am to
Abortion is a violent crime.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
52787 posts
Posted on 9/16/21 at 11:15 am to
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Does abortion being legal explain the dramatic drop in violent crime?


Where do you live, that there has been a dramatic drop in crime?

Man you love these straw man threads don't you? Your first got whacked, going for a double play?
This post was edited on 9/16/21 at 11:16 am
Posted by BRUNNIN4
DFW
Member since Mar 2010
3060 posts
Posted on 9/16/21 at 11:15 am to
DNA evidence
Posted by NashvilleTider
Your Mom
Member since Jan 2007
11366 posts
Posted on 9/16/21 at 11:15 am to
Why are you being so racist? The vast majority of aborted babies (per planned parenthood's original mission) are blacks. Are you saying that blacks are more violent?

Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
95311 posts
Posted on 9/16/21 at 11:16 am to
Law changes in the 80s to put drug dealers and repeat offenders behind bars likely had a larger impact on that.

Roe was still about 16 years before NYC hit rock bottom and Bernie Goetz plugged some gang kids intending to rob him on the El train.
Posted by Padme
Member since Dec 2020
6156 posts
Posted on 9/16/21 at 11:16 am to
Because aborted babies would have been criminals? Because this board is racist?


Moron
Posted by sabes que
Member since Jan 2010
10156 posts
Posted on 9/16/21 at 11:17 am to
Statistics disagree with you, murders are less than 50 percent what were in 1980.
Posted by NoRINO
Member since Sep 2021
22 posts
Posted on 9/16/21 at 11:17 am to
quote:

Does abortion being legal explain the dramatic drop in violent crime?


No

Although congrats. You've read Dubner and Levitt and brought it here about a decade late.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
52787 posts
Posted on 9/16/21 at 11:18 am to
quote:

Statistics disagree with you


Please, post the statistics.

quote:

murders are less than 50 percent what were in 1980.


Where? Again post statistics. And when did abortion get legalized? Your threads are nothing more than you creating straw man arguments then getting whacked. Suffice it to say, you fail pretty hard here.
This post was edited on 9/16/21 at 11:19 am
Posted by Eli Goldfinger
Member since Sep 2016
32785 posts
Posted on 9/16/21 at 11:18 am to
It probably accounts for some.
Posted by NoRINO
Member since Sep 2021
22 posts
Posted on 9/16/21 at 11:18 am to
quote:

Where do you live, that there has been a dramatic drop in crime?

Well. It depends on what your start date is. But, if your start date is 1980, then yes, there's been a precipitous drop in violent crime.

But it ain't cause of abortion.
Posted by sabes que
Member since Jan 2010
10156 posts
Posted on 9/16/21 at 11:19 am to
quote:

Because aborted babies would have been criminals?
Born to a parent that doesn’t want to even have them, statistically, yes, way more likely.
Posted by NoRINO
Member since Sep 2021
22 posts
Posted on 9/16/21 at 11:21 am to
quote:

Where? Again post statistics. And when did abortion get legalized? Your threads are nothing more than you creating straw man arguments then getting whacked. Suffice it to say, you fail pretty hard here.

Honestly, as ridiculous as OP is, the stats he refers to are well known and should be common knowledge.

Alas, the reason for the drop can almost entirely be attributed to nothing more than age demographics.

Crime is calculated as a rate and, the vast majority of violent crime is committed by males between the ages of 18-35.

That age group has shrunk DRAMATICALLY over the last 40 years while the older age groups have grown.

Thus, basic math at that point.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67075 posts
Posted on 9/16/21 at 11:22 am to
Not as much as advancements in medical practices
Posted by NoRINO
Member since Sep 2021
22 posts
Posted on 9/16/21 at 11:23 am to
quote:

Born to a parent that doesn’t want to even have them, statistically, yes, way more likely.

You MIGHT be able to attribute a tiny fraction of the overall drop to abortion.

The REAL driver though was the birth control pill.

That cratered our birth rate such that today, there are far fewer 18-35 year old males per 100K population than there used to be.

Simple
Posted by MMauler
Member since Jun 2013
19216 posts
Posted on 9/16/21 at 11:24 am to
quote:

Are you saying that blacks are more violent?


Actually, it's FBI statistics that PROVE that.
Posted by sabes que
Member since Jan 2010
10156 posts
Posted on 9/16/21 at 11:25 am to
Are you saying murder rates aren’t 50 percent of what they are in 1980? Lol look it up
Posted by NoRINO
Member since Sep 2021
22 posts
Posted on 9/16/21 at 11:26 am to
quote:

Are you saying murder rates aren’t 50 percent of what they are in 1980? Lol look it up

I already answered your OP.

Ya know. As long as you're looking up stats and all
Posted by TigerSprings
Southeast LA
Member since Jan 2019
1586 posts
Posted on 9/16/21 at 11:26 am to
It's still not as low as it was in the 40s. Ask yourself why did it increase, not why is it half way lower.
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