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"Do you want Ukraine to win" is an unfair question.

Posted on 9/11/24 at 7:27 pm
Posted by Tactical Syrup
Member since Jun 2024
1273 posts
Posted on 9/11/24 at 7:27 pm
Jesus man.

What a load of shite this is.

You can't say you want them to win, even if you do.

If you're sitting at the negotiation table with Putin, you cannot have on record that you want Ukraine to win. You have to at least appear neutral while condemning the war.

Why the frick do we have to play world police? Every single time.
Posted by ApexTiger
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Member since Oct 2003
56549 posts
Posted on 9/11/24 at 7:30 pm to
what does winning look like? - is what I would ask the moderator
Posted by Sofaking2
Member since Apr 2023
21164 posts
Posted on 9/11/24 at 7:30 pm to
I want the US to win.
Posted by wareaglepete
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Member since Dec 2012
18512 posts
Posted on 9/11/24 at 7:32 pm to
frick Ukraine, I hope they lose. Don’t listen to the propaganda. Those bitches are thieves and liars. Go well with our POS government.
Posted by BeepBopBoop
Northshore
Member since Dec 2023
1412 posts
Posted on 9/11/24 at 7:32 pm to
First of all Ukraine can’t win without US boots on the ground and screw that.

Trump’s answer was good, I want the war to end.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
120445 posts
Posted on 9/11/24 at 7:34 pm to
It’s an idiotic question. What does Ukraine winning look like? Does that mean that they get back Crimea? Does it mean they get Putin to unconditionally surrender? All that’s going to do is lead to millions of deaths, and frick off on that.
Posted by clacker
kamrad cooked!
Member since Aug 2024
904 posts
Posted on 9/11/24 at 7:34 pm to
frick Zelensky and Ukraine and that little prick Vindman
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 9/11/24 at 7:34 pm to
quote:

Trump’s answer was good, I want the war to end.


Yes, that was a great answer by him last night.
Posted by LuckyTiger
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Posted on 9/11/24 at 7:36 pm to
Stupid question by an awful media.

The real question should be:

"What is your plan to de escalate the wars in the Middle East and Ukraine and find possible workable solutions to these complex geopolitical issues that are resulting in the killings of hundreds of thousands of human lives and hundreds of billions of US taxpayer dollars?"

It's like our media wants war and conflict.

Posted by Gifman
Clearwater Beach, FL
Member since Jan 2021
18852 posts
Posted on 9/11/24 at 7:38 pm to
I really don’t care if Ukraine wins or loses. Just stop sending them taxpayer money. Let the EU babysit that shithole.
Posted by Figgy
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Member since May 2020
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Posted on 9/11/24 at 7:38 pm to
The question was actually worse when you consider it was asked from the perspective that Trump is Putin’s lapdog and that he’ll put Russia’s interests to the forefront.

But I thought the way he handled the question was a bright spot in an otherwise mediocre performance.
Posted by LuckyTiger
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Posted on 9/11/24 at 7:39 pm to
It's a complex, multilayered issue.

And our media, in a presidential debate, asks a question about it like a high school football coach asking a pep talk question before a football game.

It's beyond insulting, ridiculous, and stupid.
Posted by AubieinNC2009
Mountain NC
Member since Dec 2018
7313 posts
Posted on 9/11/24 at 7:44 pm to
And Trump answered it perfectly. He wants the war over. There is no winning in this war, end it.

Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
68333 posts
Posted on 9/11/24 at 7:45 pm to
JD eats up this question and usually responds "what does winning look like?"
Posted by AU66
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Member since Sep 2006
3312 posts
Posted on 9/11/24 at 7:46 pm to
quote:

I really don’t care if Ukraine wins or loses. Just stop sending them taxpayer money. Let the EU babysit that shithole.


GB and France’s gdp are larger than Russia’s , it’s a European issue. Russia is not the 70’s Soviet Union, it’s time they fend for themselves. There was a time France and England ruled the world, time for the European powers to stand alone.
Posted by Putty
Member since Oct 2003
25911 posts
Posted on 9/11/24 at 7:47 pm to
quote:

what does winning look like? - is what I would ask the moderator


I was thinking same.

“Define ‘win.’ But to answer your question Ukraine has already lost enough. Russia has already lost enough. And our insane and hopeless spending to prolong the war only insures they will both lose more. It’s a lose/lose/lose proposition. It’s bad policy and it has to stop. I will stop it.”
Posted by Warrior Court
Atlanta
Member since Apr 2022
3804 posts
Posted on 9/11/24 at 7:48 pm to
quote:

frick Zelensky and Ukraine and that little prick Vindman


lots of Russian supporters in this thread.

are you too young to remember Afghanistan? frick Putin.
Posted by clacker
kamrad cooked!
Member since Aug 2024
904 posts
Posted on 9/11/24 at 7:52 pm to



Dumbass!


Just because you don't want your tax money going to a stupid fricking war means you support Putin.

Go frick yourself.

And, yeah, what about that disastrous Afghanistan pullout by Harris and Biden?
Posted by captainFid
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Member since Dec 2014
10523 posts
Posted on 9/11/24 at 7:56 pm to
Thanks OP for highlight this.... Something I hope he brings up in the future. He had a very good response.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
120445 posts
Posted on 9/11/24 at 7:56 pm to
quote:

It's like our media wants war and conflict.


That’s because they do. When Trump did his first major drone strike, there’s a reason Van Jones fawned over him saying “This was the day that Donald Trump became President.”
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