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Do you think the USA should promote democracy globally or not give a shite?
Posted on 11/27/18 at 11:46 am
Posted on 11/27/18 at 11:46 am
Personally, I don't give a shite what government another country has. I don't care what they do to their people. It's not the USA's eternal problem or mission to save everybody everywhere, or even anybody anywhere.
If they are nice to us, fairly treat our products and businesses, don't antagonize us, respect American citizens in their country and generally don't encroach into our sphere of influence (North America and maybe S America too) then I don't give a flying frick if their judiciary is elected, or if their greatest desire is to invade Tajikistan.
If they are nice to us, fairly treat our products and businesses, don't antagonize us, respect American citizens in their country and generally don't encroach into our sphere of influence (North America and maybe S America too) then I don't give a flying frick if their judiciary is elected, or if their greatest desire is to invade Tajikistan.
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Posted on 11/27/18 at 11:48 am to cokebottleag
I agree.
Posted on 11/27/18 at 11:48 am to cokebottleag
Promoting democracy globally is a ruse, an Orwellian term used by those in power to convince naive liberals that it's ok to bomb women and children because we're the good guys.
Posted on 11/27/18 at 11:51 am to cokebottleag
We aren't a democracy.
How about just be an example of a good democratic republic for them?
They can decide if that is what they want or not.
How about just be an example of a good democratic republic for them?
They can decide if that is what they want or not.
Posted on 11/27/18 at 11:54 am to cokebottleag
Democracy is only possible if a country is made up of people that are tolerant to those that have differing beliefs/views/opinions etc. The cultural profile is the most important element. This disqualifies many countries.
Posted on 11/27/18 at 11:56 am to cokebottleag
We can promote democracy without having to raid, topple, and rebuild nations. I know most of the establishment doesn't understand that, but its possible.
We should promote our way of life, but if we are rejected by a people, frick dem. We shouldn't do business with them. Economic advantage is the best way to promote democracy and the American way.
We should promote our way of life, but if we are rejected by a people, frick dem. We shouldn't do business with them. Economic advantage is the best way to promote democracy and the American way.
Posted on 11/27/18 at 11:59 am to cokebottleag
The United States works under the arrogant assumption that everyone around the world wants Democracy and even worse, that they want the type of democracy that we think they should have.
Maybe they don't
Maybe they don't
Posted on 11/27/18 at 12:04 pm to cokebottleag
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Do you think the USA should promote democracy globally or not give a shite?
Democracy is the God that Failed. It's not something any right thinking person should advocate for, and all over the world we see democracies that suffer immense instability and lack of production.
"Democracy", in tandem with the word "regime" is merely a way that the deep state and elites refer to rogue nations/states in order to gain support for interfering in their lives.
Democracy has nothing to do with freedom. Democracy is a soft variant of communism, and rarely in the history of ideas has it been taken for anything else.
If the right to vote were expanded to seven year olds … its policies would most definitely reflect the ‘legitimate concerns’ of children to have ‘adequate’ and ‘equal’ access to ‘free’ french fries, lemonade and videos.
Hans-Hermann Hoppe
Democracy is the Tyranny of the Elites, shrouded by the idiocy of the masses.
This post was edited on 11/27/18 at 12:06 pm
Posted on 11/27/18 at 12:05 pm to KiwiHead
You can lead a horse to water........
Posted on 11/27/18 at 12:06 pm to cokebottleag
Not give a shite and quite sending money and troops all over the planet...
Posted on 11/27/18 at 12:10 pm to cokebottleag
Disagree. Democracies are far better for the US than say: china, russia, Iran, N. Korea etc.
Name a problem state, it isn't a democracy. Hell, the latest wave of immigration are because of the failed democracy in Honduras.
That said, there is a HUGE gulf between promoting democracy and the foolish attempt to set up a democracy through military intervention.
Name a problem state, it isn't a democracy. Hell, the latest wave of immigration are because of the failed democracy in Honduras.
That said, there is a HUGE gulf between promoting democracy and the foolish attempt to set up a democracy through military intervention.
Posted on 11/27/18 at 12:11 pm to cokebottleag
Most of the countries we do this in don't want and can't handle freedom. There's a large portion of this country that can't handle it. We need to focus on our own first.
Posted on 11/27/18 at 12:11 pm to PimpDaddyHustleStack
Democracy is only possible in countries where the average IQ is 95 or above.
Posted on 11/27/18 at 12:15 pm to BigJim
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Name a problem state, it isn't a democracy. Hell, the latest wave of immigration are because of the failed democracy in Honduras.
I had to read this 5 times to make sure what you are actually advocating for.
Lemme get this straight:
Problem states for the US are "not democracies" (false, but I'll go with it), so the conclusion is "not a democracy = problem"?
Honduras is a democracy, and a terrible state so the conclusion is "need better democracy"?
Much confusing here.
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Democracies are far better for the US than say: china, russia, Iran, N. Korea etc.
Well I agree that democracy won't be good for those states, though the democratic aspects of America are the main drivers of the absolute decline of the nation. The more democratic we've become, the further we move from the principles of our founding.
Posted on 11/27/18 at 12:16 pm to Vastmind
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Democracy is only possible in countries where the average IQ is 95 or above.
Democracy is possible everywhere. It just sucks more where people are at near down's syndrome levels of intelligence.
This post was edited on 11/27/18 at 12:24 pm
Posted on 11/27/18 at 12:18 pm to PimpDaddyHustleStack
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Democracy is only possible if a country is made up of people that are tolerant to those that have differing beliefs/views/opinions etc. The cultural profile is the most important element. This disqualifies many countries.
Well that's absolutely contradictory.
A "tolerant democracy" will be unable to maintain the "cultural profile" you claim is necessary to a functioning democracy.
Posted on 11/27/18 at 12:20 pm to PimpDaddyHustleStack
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Democracy is only possible if a country is made up of people that are tolerant to those that have differing beliefs/views/opinions etc. The cultural profile is the most important element. This disqualifies many countries.
Republican ideas are pretty much ubiquitous though. Most countries in the world have some version of parliamentarian republicanism, and there are officially very few countries that aren't republics. In practice you have constitutional republics where no transfer of power occurs, which number around 50 countries in the world.
Posted on 11/27/18 at 12:20 pm to MrCarton
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Honduras is a democracy, and a terrible state so the conclusion is "need better democracy"?
No its not....its democracy in name only. It's a kleptocracy and a narco state.
Posted on 11/27/18 at 12:22 pm to 14&Counting
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No its not....its democracy in name only. It's a kleptocracy and a narco state.
"democracies are good states, bad states are not democratic"
All democracies are, by definition, kleptocratic and redistributive, BTW. that's the entire idea.
Posted on 11/27/18 at 12:23 pm to crazy4lsu
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Republican ideas are pretty much ubiquitous though.
Lol yeah right dude. There are two democracies in the world. The US and Israel. Duh.
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