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re: Do you think the shooter was aiming at the neck?
Posted on 9/11/25 at 1:53 am to geauxkoo
Posted on 9/11/25 at 1:53 am to geauxkoo
No “professional” is going to aim for the neck. They’d aim for center mass and not miss. I think this shooter was an amateur who was aiming for the head and missed that target but got lucky the bullet still hit Charlie’s neck. They wanted a headshot for the shock.
If all you can see is head and shoulders, it's head.
If you have a full body view, it's chest.
If all you can see is head and shoulders, it's head.
If you have a full body view, it's chest.
This post was edited on 9/11/25 at 2:33 am
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Posted on 9/11/25 at 2:15 am to Smeg
From your video, does it not look like he was hit from behind his right ear? The shirt movement makes little sense.
Posted on 9/11/25 at 2:48 am to mmcgrath
I know what the video looks like but I’ll trust what Solomon says. He’s not just some random dude speculating based off of what he saw.
So Charlie was absolutely wearing a plate if Solomon says he was. They’ve known one another for years, very close. Odds of a ricochet may be minuscule but apparently it can happen.
And honestly, just common sense should tell you he had armor on. No chance he would do what he did, in this climate, without it.
RIP Charlie
So Charlie was absolutely wearing a plate if Solomon says he was. They’ve known one another for years, very close. Odds of a ricochet may be minuscule but apparently it can happen.
And honestly, just common sense should tell you he had armor on. No chance he would do what he did, in this climate, without it.
RIP Charlie
Posted on 9/11/25 at 4:49 am to LSUROXS
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The first video I saw it looked like he was hit in the chest
I've only seen the video once - and my first impression was that there was a hit to the chest - but then the blood from the neck and I dismissed that first impression.
Posted on 9/11/25 at 4:58 am to Arkaea79
So I'm thinking you are saying he was aiming for his head...what kind of round would have those kinds of ballistics in a 200 yd shot?
Posted on 9/11/25 at 5:28 am to DaleDenton
quote:No vest expert but I don't think those things cause a ricochet. The bullet buries itself into the vest. I would suspect he was going for a head shot and missed or center mass shot and missed.
He hit him dead in the middle of the chest and the bullet ricochet off his vest into his neck.
So no, he did not miss.
Posted on 9/11/25 at 5:31 am to geauxkoo
Nah, you aim for the head.
Posted on 9/11/25 at 5:35 am to ticklechain
quote:All of them. (smaller than 5.56/.223 excluded).
So I'm thinking you are saying he was aiming for his head...what kind of round would have those kinds of ballistics in a 200 yd shot?
Posted on 9/11/25 at 5:46 am to ticklechain
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So I'm thinking you are saying he was aiming for his head...what kind of round would have those kinds of ballistics in a 200 yd shot
Seriously?
Pretty much all, except for rimfire and pistol caliber carbines.
Posted on 9/11/25 at 5:51 am to UtahCajun
What I'm saying is, what kind of round would drop 6" in 200 yds. None i can think of
Posted on 9/11/25 at 5:55 am to ticklechain
quote:45/70, .44mag maybe. Not sure about a .35 Whalen
What I'm saying is, what kind of round would drop 6" in 200 yds. None i can think of
I use a 30.06. I do mine at 2" high at one hundred to be "dead" on at 200 (excuse the term but that's a normal term).
Posted on 9/11/25 at 6:00 am to Smeg
I'm still trying to figure out how his wedding ring switches from his ring finger to his pinky still holding the microphone
Posted on 9/11/25 at 6:01 am to Arkaea79
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It was bullet drop, no one aims for the neck. No "professional" hit would do that.
Which is why you know this wasn’t a “professional”.
Professional would have accounted for drop.
Posted on 9/11/25 at 6:10 am to ticklechain
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What I'm saying is, what kind of round would drop 6" in 200 yds. None i can think of
It didn't drop. Something happened to pull the shot downward.
Posted on 9/11/25 at 6:12 am to Diamondawg
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Not sure about a .35 Whalen
I use a 30.06. I do mine at 2" high at one hundred to be "dead" on at 200 (excuse the term but that's a normal term).
These 2 have almost identical ballistics. The Whelen just carries more energy. Very good round.
Posted on 9/11/25 at 6:34 am to UtahCajun
quote:I have heard that. I have a 45/70 for muzzleloader season but on private land, which is about all I hunt, "Rifle of choice" so I never felt the need for a new one for that short time. Friend of mine hunted a lot of slews on river bottom and wanted something that would drop them in their tracks, for obvious reason and he picked the Whelen.
These 2 have almost identical ballistics. The Whelen just carries more energy. Very good round
Posted on 9/11/25 at 6:49 am to Diamondawg
No modern rifle drops 6-8” in 200 yds. Most are within 2” out to 250 depending on zero. Most likely just a poor shot by shooter.
This post was edited on 9/11/25 at 6:53 am
Posted on 9/11/25 at 7:41 am to tigerfoot
Time will tell. But make sure you come back and acknowledge when I'm right
This post was edited on 9/11/25 at 7:44 am
Posted on 9/11/25 at 7:50 am to geauxkoo
In my opinion shooter was pretty comfortable with a gun. Most likely aiming at chest/heart.
Shooting a human is not easy unless you are pretty experienced. I personally believe a nervous shooter pulled trigger too quick and “pulled” the shot. Quick trigger normally makes the shot go high and right on paper if right handed.
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Shooting a human is not easy unless you are pretty experienced. I personally believe a nervous shooter pulled trigger too quick and “pulled” the shot. Quick trigger normally makes the shot go high and right on paper if right handed.
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Posted on 9/11/25 at 8:01 am to scottyd
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I think the shooter didn’t know their holdover
Holdover? At 200 yards? Nah bruh it doesn't work that way.
Also, the only vest thats stopping a rifle round is plates, and he wasnt wearing plates.
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