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re: Do you think Russia being one of the last woke nations
Posted on 4/11/18 at 9:21 pm to OMLandshark
Posted on 4/11/18 at 9:21 pm to OMLandshark
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Ummm, when you're talking about getting rid of troublesome minorities and bringing in a group who wants an ethnostate and to adopt their line of government, then yeah, I think it's appropriate to compare you to someone who would like a Hitler like leader. Say what you will about the Nazis, but they're very good taking care of troublesome minorities and thoughts.
Do you criticize Israel for wanting to have an ethno-religious state?
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Posted on 4/11/18 at 9:24 pm to texag7
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When has Trump said any of that. You just called him Hitler earlier.
I never said Trump was any of that. I'm saying his supporters say it. I don't think Trump is Nazi-like, but you revere him like Nazis did Hitler, and seek to destroy anyone who even makes a joke about President Chester Cheetah. Your cult like worship of him and basic racism is startling to anyone who is sane.
Posted on 4/11/18 at 9:25 pm to cr32pll29
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Do you criticize Israel for wanting to have an ethno-religious state?
I don't think that's a good thing, but I largely blame the Arabs for being far more antisemitic than the Jews being anti-Islamic. They've had 5 opportunities for a compromise, but the Palestinians have always refused it.
Posted on 4/11/18 at 9:26 pm to Strannix
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Who said this???? What are you even talking about? Are you drunk or on drugs?
You, like every other god damn day.
Posted on 4/11/18 at 9:26 pm to OMLandshark
The main racism in this country today comes from liberals attacking white men for simply being white men.
I'm sorry but it's the 100% truth.
I'm sorry but it's the 100% truth.
Posted on 4/11/18 at 9:28 pm to OMLandshark
So... they are allowed to have an ethnostate but nobody else can aspire to do the same, hmmmm
Posted on 4/11/18 at 9:29 pm to texag7
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The main racism in this country today comes from liberals attacking white men for simply being white men.
I'm sorry but it's the 100% truth.
In the press, I agree. But in day to day, racism doesn't exist as much. The only nation I will even contemplate is less racist than us is Canada, and that's it. In our current form we're the least racist society on the history of this planet. You want a racist society, go to Asia and then report back. Granted it doesn't help with posters like a sizable portion of this board, but they are a loud vocal minority, which is also all the press is.
Posted on 4/11/18 at 9:32 pm to cr32pll29
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So... they are allowed to have an ethnostate but nobody else can aspire to do the same, hmmmm
I'm saying an ethnostate is morally wrong. Having a state where you have the same ideals, like say free speech, separation of church and state, everyone has equal rights, everyone should contribute to society, and there should be an open market, then I am for people coming to America so long as they agree with those 5 principles. That is America, and if you frick up one of those, we should be able to kick you the frick out if you are an immigrant.
Posted on 4/11/18 at 9:33 pm to OMLandshark
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seek to destroy anyone who even makes a joke about President Chester Cheetah. Your cult like worship of him and basic racism is startling to anyone who is sane.
The hardcore Trump supporters are those who Trump made feel ok about their racism and fully embrace the identity politics for straight white people Trump sells.
Posted on 4/11/18 at 9:35 pm to Strannix
I understand the point the OP is trying to make. However, the fact is that Russia is the second biggest haven for immigrants in the world behind the United States. Therefore, the idea that Russia rejects mass immigration is factually inaccurate.
Posted on 4/11/18 at 9:37 pm to OMLandshark
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I'm saying an ethnostate is morally wrong. Having a state where you have the same ideals, like say free speech, separation of church and state, everyone has equal rights, everyone should contribute to society, and there should be an open market, then I am for people coming to America so long as they agree with those 5 principles. That is America, and if you frick up one of those, we should be able to kick you the frick out if you are an immigrant.
Well, that racist a-hole saying it doesn't know all that much about Israel in the first place. It is religiously placed, sure, but ethnically? No, not even close. The people there are European, Moroccan, Yemeni, Ethiopian, Iraqi, etc., etc.
Its citizenship is also about 20% Arab Muslim.
Posted on 4/11/18 at 9:38 pm to Duke
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The hardcore Trump supporters are those who Trump made feel ok about their racism and fully embrace the identity politics for straight white people Trump sells.
And I would argue that the rise of identity politics for whites can be attributed to the adoption of identity politics by mainstream society, which teaches whites to be ashamed of their history and places the blame for every societal failure on white people, especially white males.
Posted on 4/11/18 at 9:40 pm to Duke
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The hardcore Trump supporters are those who Trump made feel ok about their racism and fully embrace the identity politics for straight white people Trump sells.
And what they need to realize is Identity Politics in really all of its forms is evil. In good fun, like say sports teams, I'm fine with. I don't think a guy from Mississippi State would leave me to die because I'm an Ole Miss fan... but once you decide that identity and not the individual is what matters, you can do all sorts of awful, awful things to millions and not give a shite.
Joseph Stalin put it best: A single death is a tragedy; a million deaths is a statistic.
Once you're able to put statistics of your population over the rights of the individual, then you have crossed a moral event horizon as far as I'm concerned. There's a reason why the Japanese were able to carry out the Rape of Nanking with mass joy, or that the men working at Auschwitz were having a gay old time throwing Jews into ovens.
You have to treat people as individuals, otherwise we're totally fricked to annihilation and to repeat the mistakes of our ancestors. It's what the United States realized and made us the greatest country the world has ever known.
Posted on 4/11/18 at 9:42 pm to AbuTheMonkey
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Well, that racist a-hole saying it doesn't know all that much about Israel in the first place. It is religiously placed, sure, but ethnically? No, not even close. The people there are European, Moroccan, Yemeni, Ethiopian, Iraqi, etc., etc.
Its citizenship is also about 20% Arab Muslim.
what is the unifying standar?
if it is only religious, how come atheist and others can be Israeli citizens?
This post was edited on 4/11/18 at 9:43 pm
Posted on 4/11/18 at 9:42 pm to SCLibertarian
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And I would argue that the rise of identity politics for whites can be attributed to the adoption of identity politics by mainstream society, which teaches whites to be ashamed of their history and places the blame for every societal failure on white people, especially white males.
The only reason Trump is President is that Trumpkins adopted the Left's despicable identity politics. It's why he got steam in the first place. Not saying that every Trump supporter is an ethnocentrists, but I think almost all of his earliest followers are.
Posted on 4/11/18 at 9:44 pm to TxTiger82
Russia Wants Immigrants the World Doesn't
Yea this thread is based on a misperception of Russia. Sorry that ruins your narrative. Go ahead and downvote, though, Strannix.
Yea this thread is based on a misperception of Russia. Sorry that ruins your narrative. Go ahead and downvote, though, Strannix.
This post was edited on 4/11/18 at 9:45 pm
Posted on 4/11/18 at 9:45 pm to cr32pll29
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what is the unifying standar?
if it is only religious, how come atheist and others can be Israeli citizens?
So aliyah is ethnic?
Posted on 4/11/18 at 9:47 pm to AbuTheMonkey
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So aliyah is ethnic?
tell me what is it? I really don't know.
Posted on 4/11/18 at 9:48 pm to OMLandshark
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And what they need to realize is Identity Politics in really all of its forms is evil. In good fun, like say sports teams, I'm fine with. I don't think a guy from Mississippi State would leave me to die because I'm an Ole Miss fan... but once you decide that identity and not the individual is what matters, you can do all sorts of awful, awful things to millions and not give a shite.
Joseph Stalin put it best: A single death is a tragedy; a million deaths is a statistic.
Once you're able to put statistics of your population over the rights of the individual, then you have crossed a moral event horizon as far as I'm concerned. There's a reason why the Japanese were able to carry out the Rape of Nanking with mass joy, or that the men working at Auschwitz were having a gay old time throwing Jews into ovens.
You have to treat people as individuals, otherwise we're totally fricked to annihilation and to repeat the mistakes of our ancestors. It's what the United States realized and made us the greatest country the world has ever known.
Great post, man.
Posted on 4/11/18 at 9:51 pm to OMLandshark
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And what they need to realize is Identity Politics in really all of its forms is evil. In good fun, like say sports teams, I'm fine with. I don't think a guy from Mississippi State would leave me to die because I'm an Ole Miss fan... but once you decide that identity and not the individual is what matters, you can do all sorts of awful, awful things to millions and not give a shite.
Joseph Stalin put it best: A single death is a tragedy; a million deaths is a statistic.
Once you're able to put statistics of your population over the rights of the individual, then you have crossed a moral event horizon as far as I'm concerned. There's a reason why the Japanese were able to carry out the Rape of Nanking with mass joy, or that the men working at Auschwitz were having a gay old time throwing Jews into ovens.
You have to treat people as individuals, otherwise we're totally fricked to annihilation and to repeat the mistakes of our ancestors. It's what the United States realized and made us the greatest country the world has ever known.
Do the people with the power treat us like individuals? if not, what should we do about it?
Identity politics was the norm for 40 centuries, what made us change, and is it the right strategy?
This post was edited on 4/11/18 at 9:53 pm
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