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re: Do anti-vaxers who seem to cherish the thought of complications realize what that means?

Posted on 1/14/22 at 1:59 pm to
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
125514 posts
Posted on 1/14/22 at 1:59 pm to
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Some people who aren’t fully on board with vaccinating everyone in the world are simply asking we treat this vaccine like we would treat any other vaccine.

You mean like being required to get prior to attending school and other civic spaces?


No. 5 to 7 years of safety studies. Post approval safety studies. Actually using VAERS data to evaluate safety.

Weird stuff like that.

The EUA provision is being abused for Big Pharma profits.
Posted by AussieRock
Member since Jan 2022
329 posts
Posted on 1/14/22 at 1:59 pm to
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Key Points to the CDC data:
•There is 99.3708% overall survival rate for those that have been infected by Covid-19. For the under 18 age group that number is 99.9975% survival rate.
•1% of those under 18 that were infected ended up in the hospital. 17.9% of those 65+ who were infected ended up in the hospital.
•84.7% of those infected were symptomatic (which means 15.3% of those infected were asymptomatic).
•44.6% of the US population has been infected with covid-19 from February 1, 2020 through September 30, 2021.


The sad part is that EVERYONE can look this up

RIGHT NOW

Yet, they actually wonder why a young person thinks getting the vaccine is borderline retarded.
Posted by BigMob
Georgia
Member since Oct 2021
7625 posts
Posted on 1/14/22 at 1:59 pm to
I’m not an “anti-vaxxer” and there likely aren’t many “anti-vaxxers” on here. I’m pro-vaccination, but this isn’t a vaccination, nor even an effective therapeutic, any longer.
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
55427 posts
Posted on 1/14/22 at 1:59 pm to
I'm still pissed I was forced to take something that we now know doesn't work like we were told AND doesn't help at all against current/upcoming variants.

Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
46173 posts
Posted on 1/14/22 at 1:59 pm to
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Is this board supposed to literally discuss world problems?
FIFY
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
26937 posts
Posted on 1/14/22 at 1:59 pm to
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Conspiracy theories aren’t healthy


You been in a coma for the last decade?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297018 posts
Posted on 1/14/22 at 2:00 pm to
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For the under 18 age group that number is 99.9975% survival rate.


There's absolutely no need for young people to have the vaccine.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
125514 posts
Posted on 1/14/22 at 2:00 pm to
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1% of those under 18 that were infected ended up in the hospital for any reason.


Posted by tigafan4life
Member since Dec 2006
50641 posts
Posted on 1/14/22 at 2:01 pm to
Is it cheerleading to point out what the vax is doing to people? I would think it is pointing out that we were right after being called antivaxxers, racist, trumpkins. Oh and also called murderers.
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
21815 posts
Posted on 1/14/22 at 2:01 pm to
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The sad part is that EVERYONE can look this up

RIGHT NOW

Yet, they actually wonder why a young person thinks getting the vaccine is borderline retarded.

And I don't think those mortality and hospitalization numbers are corrected for the with/because factor.
Posted by Cajun Tiger 4
Member since May 2018
418 posts
Posted on 1/14/22 at 2:02 pm to
I don't cheer for it. I am heartbroken by it. We just want freedom from the experimental covid shot. Mass formation psychosis has spread like wildfire. Please wake up my friend.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297018 posts
Posted on 1/14/22 at 2:02 pm to
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I'm still pissed I was forced to take something that we now know doesn't work like we were told


Same here. They lied about the initial doses preventing the spread.

Posted by AussieRock
Member since Jan 2022
329 posts
Posted on 1/14/22 at 2:02 pm to
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No. 5 to 7 years of safety studies. Post approval safety studies. Actually using VAERS data to evaluate safety.

Weird stuff like that.


Scrub knew the answer.

His answer was nothing more than lazy a-hole
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297018 posts
Posted on 1/14/22 at 2:03 pm to
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Is it cheerleading to point out what the vax is doing to people?


He'll go read reddit talking points and get back to you.
Posted by DeepBlueSea
Member since Jan 2018
815 posts
Posted on 1/14/22 at 2:04 pm to
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Another second-level effect is how these tribal beliefs about the COVID vaccine come to effect beliefs about other vaccines and decisions to vaccinate including childhood vaccinations for kids and general levels of trust and help-seeking for other kinds of medical care. It has major public health implications.



Perhaps a lot of public health experts, politicians, and medical professionals should have considered that before they embarked on an aggressive campaign to manipulate data, suppress opportunities to explore treatment alternatives, publicly mock or punish people who expressed dissenting opinions, and experiment on some of our most vulnerable citizens with impunity. This would be on their heads, not another disingenuous burden to heap onto all the poor, powerless saps whom they actively conditioned not to trust them anymore. If that’s what you’re labeling “tribalism”, then in this case it’s really just a monster of your own creation.

When certain people have all the blood on their hands, they’d be wise not to keep pointing fingers at regular folks who are just trying to live their lives and care for their families no matter how powerful they believe themselves to be in comparison. And if anyone in the same field has integrity, they’d be wise to distance themselves from those who would engage in such self-serving, amoral behavior, lest they only perpetuate the crisis..
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
46173 posts
Posted on 1/14/22 at 2:04 pm to
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There's absolutely no need for young people to have the vaccine.


If the virus continues to weaken and defy vaccines as it mutates, and the European studies about vax impacts on the immune system check out. There's no reason for ANYONE to get these vaccines.

There should be a big pause right now to reevaluate where we really are. Instead, the globalists are too busy trying to cancel Novak Djokovic.
Posted by AussieRock
Member since Jan 2022
329 posts
Posted on 1/14/22 at 2:04 pm to
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And I don't think those mortality and hospitalization numbers are corrected for the with/because factor.


Exactly.

Those numbers from the CDC are literally the WORST they could be. If it turns out that there was any numerically significant games played in the "with/from" category, they can only get LOWER in terms of risk.

Vaccinating your healthy 18 year old against COVID is among the dumbest things a human could do.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
466336 posts
Posted on 1/14/22 at 2:05 pm to
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He'll go read reddit talking points and get back to you.

I don't read Reddit, wtf.

I was anti-Reddit years before it was cool.
Posted by AussieRock
Member since Jan 2022
329 posts
Posted on 1/14/22 at 2:06 pm to
the808bass

I'm still somewhat recovering from the mind-boggling absurdity of that other SFP thread you shared.

My God. What in the frick?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297018 posts
Posted on 1/14/22 at 2:06 pm to
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There should be a big pause right now to reevaluate where we really are

The intelligent way to deal with Covid would have been to address those at risk, instead of lying to the public from the start.

The OP is supporting the unintelligent way of dealing with the disease.
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