re: DNI Gabbard Releases US-Funded Biolab Evidence, including Ukraine

the split developing over this is interesting.

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I may have just popped your bubble

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I've been here for almost 10 years and I am willing to put money on you having never having popped anything in your life.

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I've been here for almost 10 years and I am willing to put money on you having never having popped anything in your life.

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What about a zit?

Don't worry, baws. Obama told us not to worry about Russia anymore.

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Every piece of evidence we have indicates accidental release

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Really. Why did David Morens intentionally delete federal records and used personal emails to evade FOIA requests to hide their early discussions about a lab leak?

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Why did David Morens intentionally delete federal records and used personal emails to evade FOIA requests to hide their early discussions about a lab leak?

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So you have no actual evidence? I'm glad you finally agree with me

*ETA: the indictment also specifically answers your question

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According to the indictment, Morens, Co-Conspirator 1, Co-Conspirator 2, and others conspired during the COVID-19 pandemic to defraud and commit several offenses against the United States after NIH terminated Co-Conspirator 1’s grant. NIH terminated the grant, Understanding the Risk of Bat Coronavirus Emergence (bat coronavirus grant), based on allegations that COVID-19 emerged from the Wuhan Institute of Virology (WIV) in Wuhan, China. NIAID awarded the grant to Company #1 and Co-Conspirator 1, who made a subaward to the WIV.

Following the termination, Morens and Co-Conspirator 2 pledged to help Co-Conspirator 1 restore the termination of the bat coronavirus grant and counter the narrative that COVID-19 leaked from a lab. In anticipation that their communications would be requested through a FOIA Request, Morens, Co-Conspirator 1, and Co-Conspirator 2 agreed in writing to intentionally hide from public view their communications by corresponding using Morens’s personal Gmail account, rather than his official NIH email account.

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DOJ

They conspired to get a grant restored.

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You lemmings fall for it every time.

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Do you still not know what "if" means?

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Russian boogeyman again. Hahahahahahahahaha

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The "Ukraine has biological weapons program" stuff is established Russian propaganda that's not exactly new. Lemmings do not know this, apparently.

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The "Ukraine has biological weapons program" stuff is established Russian propaganda that's not exactly new. Lemmings do not know this, apparently.

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Biden’s msm propaganda machine from 2022 tell you that?? Hahahahahahahaha

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I swear several years ago Putin talked about these labs

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He did. Mar. 2022

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The Russian Foreign Ministry on Thursday asked Washington to provide all information on the activities of US-linked biological laboratories in Ukraine.

Last week, US Undersecretary of State for Political Affairs Victoria Nuland testified before a Senate Foreign Relations Committee hearing on Ukraine, admitting "Ukraine has biological research facilities."

Russia's recent disclosure about the US-funded biolabs in Ukraine has sent jitters around the globe.

Besides Ukraine, the US has been funding secret biolabs in many countries around the world. 

The truth behind these biolabs and the risks of leakage of some dangerous pathogens have sparked serious concern in the international community.

The Biological Threat Reduction Program (BTRP) is part of the US Department of Defense's Cooperative Threat Reduction (CTR) Program, according to the defense ministry.

Since 2005, when the BTRP partnered with the government of Ukraine, the US has invested approximately $200 million in Ukraine, supporting 46 Ukrainian laboratories, health facilities and diagnostic sites.

According to publicly available data, 336 laboratories in about 30 countries receive funding from the BTRP. 

The research work conducted by these defense ministry-funded biolabs is highly classified.

Although US officials have dismissed the questions about these biolabs as "disinformation" and "conspiracy theories," there have been calls for Washington to comply with the Biological Weapons Convention and make clarifications on related issues.

Alastair Hay, professor emeritus of Environmental Toxicology at the University of Leeds in Britain, said: "the United States has been supporting various laboratories in the Ukraine through a post-Cold War program. As I understand it, these labs are generally involved in disease surveillance."

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The monitoring of Cold War-era biological agents across the former Soviet Union was always the cover story for these labs to exist in the first place. What went on behind closed doors has been believed to be much more nefarious.

After all, it's not like they were tourist destinations where anyone would walk in off the streets.

Russia had raised concerns about the US having supported biolabs in Ukraine for years (this is an old and non-secret program back to the Nunn-Lugar Biological Threat Reduction program in the 90's), just as Russia has objected to US involvement in Ukraine in a gazillion ways. I'm specifically curious about the timeline for the stronger claim that Ukraine itself was engaged in offensive bioweapons work. Does anyone have examples of Russia publicly alleging that Ukraine was operating an offensive biological weapons program before the February 2022 invasion like they were doing in March '22 and beyond?

ETA: Vox found one from March '22 above and Placekicker showing Biden reacting to Russian allegations from the same time-frame.