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re: DJT has collected enough money from Mexico in tariffs to pay for the wall.
Posted on 7/12/25 at 7:05 am to Rebel
Posted on 7/12/25 at 7:05 am to Rebel
Does a truth social post from POTUS directly stating who pays tariffs count???
I posted that in the thread already, really couldn’t be more clear. You don’t have to pretend you don’t know (what we’ve all always known) about the basics of trade.
I posted that in the thread already, really couldn’t be more clear. You don’t have to pretend you don’t know (what we’ve all always known) about the basics of trade.
This post was edited on 7/12/25 at 7:10 am
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Posted on 7/12/25 at 7:16 am to mwade91383
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Does a truth social post from POTUS directly stating who pays tariffs count???
I posted that in the thread already, really couldn’t be more clear. You don’t have to pretend you don’t know (what we’ve all always known) about the basics of trade.
Hey dickhead,
Did Mexico pay tariffs? Is anybody here forced to buy Mexican shite?
You absolutely cannot stand anything positive about the admin. You may as well be working for MSNBC.
Posted on 7/12/25 at 7:17 am to RohanGonzales
No, importers did.
No, and not really relevant.
Do you have an actual point?
No, and not really relevant.
Do you have an actual point?
Posted on 7/12/25 at 7:17 am to RohanGonzales
Exactly. They are melting down cause Mex is paying that new sticker price onnthe wall 
Posted on 7/12/25 at 7:18 am to 3down10
To the point Rebel made, the Money is paid by the broker. The unknown in all of these statements is where does the broker get the money, from the exporting company directly? Ok, but where does the exporting company get the money? Do they get direct payments from their government (i.e. an government subsidy) that allows them the liquidity to operate as a business and make the payments then yes, the other country is in fact paying, as a pass-through cost through the government subsidized country, but they are paying. And that is the point many are missing. Many of these countries provide support to their companies in violation of trade agreements.
Posted on 7/12/25 at 7:19 am to DeathByTossDive225
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Tariffs do generate federal revenue, it’s just the source of that revenue is not foreign. Tariffs might even get us favorable trade terms if used as a negotiating tactic/threat, but your arguments will be more credible in the future by understanding that “tariff revenue” is not foreign money.
Semantics. No Mexico isnt sending us Pesos for every transaction. Both the exporter and importer of the goods likely take less profit from the deal. Sure the price of product may go up...the customer doesnt have to buy the product. They could also choose buy the American made product instead
Posted on 7/12/25 at 7:19 am to mmcgrath
Ahh I smell Panican. Wash your vagina please.
Posted on 7/12/25 at 8:39 am to DeathByTossDive225
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A master agreement is just a contract framework, that could be anything.
This isn’t a small factor in the equation…
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That doesn’t change where tariff revenue comes from though. I’m not trying to “gotcha” you here. Just passing info.
If a price is already negotiated (see MA above) or otherwise allocates the import costs, the party that makes the actual payment to the fedgov is arbitrary.
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“tariff revenue” is not foreign money.
Did you acknowledge that contractual terms actually dictate who bears the cost, or not?
You seem confident in your answer, but not wanting to touch the intricacies of individual trade deals.
Posted on 7/12/25 at 8:53 am to The Boat
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One of the best self owns out of many is how Congress wouldn’t give Trump a paltry $8 billion for the wall in 2017, but then after trying to throw him in jail and murder him he comes back and gets $50 billion to lock down the border.
Posted on 7/12/25 at 9:05 am to mmcgrath
Retarded libs won’t be happy unless the president of Mexico hands Trump a giant game show check with “wall money” scribbled on the memo line.
Posted on 7/12/25 at 9:07 am to mmcgrath
Who does? Inflation is falling.
Posted on 7/12/25 at 9:10 am to mmcgrath
We had a budget surplus in June built on tariffs collected and both CPI and inflation trends are shrinking, you idiot.
Posted on 7/12/25 at 9:13 am to JackieTreehorn
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For all the BS they throw at him 24/7 he just brushes it off and slaps the shite out of them. Been on the train since 2015 and haven’t wavered.
Posted on 7/12/25 at 9:14 am to imjustafatkid
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this is exactly why all the foreign governments are mad about the tariffs.
This is reality screaming into the faces of the morons.
Posted on 7/12/25 at 9:15 am to mwade91383
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Does a truth social post from POTUS directly stating who pays tariffs count??? I posted that in the thread already, really couldn’t be more clear. You don’t have to pretend you don’t know (what we’ve all always known) about the basics of trade.
Are you clinging to the basics, because you don’t want to discuss the complexities?
Why are foreign governments having fits about the tariffs? Why are they responding with retaliatory tariffs?
It’s because it’s not as simple as the government taxing its consumers for stuff they buy. That’s incredibly disingenuous and unproductive. Who writes the check, so to speak, is not the most important detail, which should be self-evident at this point.
Time will tell the whole story, no doubt about any lasting effects being way to early to bank on, but the immediate picture we are seeing is that 1) markets are settling down and reacting favorably 2) same with domestic economic indicators (labor and inflation) 3) the fedgov has seen a significant increase in revenue from tariffs. Is it possible that perhaps the US had been leaving money on the global trade table, and these actions are an overall improvement to that position?
Posted on 7/12/25 at 9:17 am to Vacherie Saint
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Retarded libs won’t be happy unless the president of Mexico hands Trump a giant game show check with “wall money” scribbled on the memo line.
Posted on 7/12/25 at 9:19 am to OceanMan
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Is it possible that perhaps the US had been leaving money on the global trade table, and these actions are an overall improvement to that position?
Very possible, but that only results in more tax revenue to a government we'd all like to shrink. If foreign governments are eating the tariffs then US competition isn't being helped by the tariffs.
Posted on 7/12/25 at 9:21 am to Rebel
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DJT has collected enough money from Mexico in tariffs to pay for the wall.
So, you're saying that Mexico did in fact pay for that wall?
Does this mean, CNN has to retract the13,204 times they said Trump lied about this issue?
Posted on 7/12/25 at 9:23 am to OceanMan
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Is it possible that perhaps the US had been leaving money on the global trade table, and these actions are an overall improvement to that position?
You sound like Trump circa his entire public life.
Posted on 7/12/25 at 9:27 am to Flats
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Very possible, but that only results in more tax revenue to a government we'd all like to shrink.
Fair point and well taken. But I think we need to acknowledge that the US has debts to pay, and structural issues that need to be weened off in order to shrink the government. Wanting that to happen overnight is unreasonable, so diversifying our revenue mix is a compelling way to bridge that gap.
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If foreign governments are eating the tariffs then US competition isn't being helped by the tariffs.
I’m not sure I understand this.
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