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re: Disputed by BugAC: RD Signed COVID Law Allowing Forced Injections by ‘Any Means Necessary’

Posted on 3/27/23 at 8:17 am to
Posted by TomShelby
Member since Mar 2023
789 posts
Posted on 3/27/23 at 8:17 am to
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But I have no idea why it bothers you people so much that Ron has voters too, unless youre lying, which is most likely true..



Everyone knows he has voters. Its like 20% which means he has zero % chance of winning. Not sure why that bothers you so much
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 3/27/23 at 8:18 am to
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If you’re foolish enough to give Trump a third chance to frick you over, I’ll assume you make shitty political decisions
Posted by momentoftruth87
Your mom
Member since Oct 2013
86110 posts
Posted on 3/27/23 at 8:18 am to
I don’t think desantis would win fl against trump tbh
Posted by FATBOY TIGER
Valhalla
Member since Jan 2016
13146 posts
Posted on 3/27/23 at 8:19 am to
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That said, the wording in the bill is a big problem.


The wording in any bill against a private citizen is a problem.
Posted by m2pro
Member since Nov 2008
29906 posts
Posted on 3/27/23 at 8:33 am to
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I'm not joining your cult.



You guys keep using this word. I don't think you know what that word means.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299430 posts
Posted on 3/27/23 at 8:35 am to
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If you’re foolishness enough to get a vax, I’ll assume you make shitty political decisions


Like this guy

Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128778 posts
Posted on 3/27/23 at 8:38 am to
You’re embarrassing yourself.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
57856 posts
Posted on 3/27/23 at 8:40 am to
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Dictator Ron learning from his mentor Bolton


Hey dipshit, Trump hired Bolton into his administration...
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299430 posts
Posted on 3/27/23 at 8:42 am to
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. I don't think you know what that word means


Definition of a cult.

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Seeking inappropriate loyalty to their leaders
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
57856 posts
Posted on 3/27/23 at 8:47 am to
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I did not know this


No shite, your dumbass didn't even read the bill, just copy/pasted anything anti-Desantis.

Here's the actual bill for the non-cult members to read

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CS/CS/SB 2006: Emergency Management


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Emergency Management; Authorizing the Legislative Budget Commission to convene to transfer certain funds to the Emergency Preparedness and Response Fund; requiring that the state comprehensive emergency management plan provide for certain public health emergency communications and include the Department of Health’s public health emergency plan; redefining the term “essentials” to include personal protective equipment used during public health emergencies; specifying requirements for the purpose and scope of emergency orders; authorizing the Governor to invalidate certain emergency orders; revising the duties of the State Health Officer during a declared public health emergency, etc.


LINK

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The bill requires state agencies to take the following actions to prepare for the next public health emergency:

The Department of Health must create a state public health emergency management plan, and requires the Division of Emergency Management to incorporate that plan into the state’s comprehensive emergency management plan; and
The Division of Emergency Management must:
Maintain an inventory of state-owned personal protective equipment; and
Include provisions in its statewide emergency shelter plan to address sheltering during a pandemic that requires distancing.
The bill also provides additional transparency and legislative oversight of the executive branch’s emergency powers. The bill:

Limits emergency orders, proclamations, and rules to 60-day durations that can be renewed as long as the emergency conditions persist;
Requires the Governor, if he or she closes schools or businesses, to state specific reasons why the schools or businesses need to close and reassess the closure regularly; and
Authorizes the Legislature to pass a concurrent resolution to terminate orders and directives issued under a state of emergency, instead of just the state of emergency itself.

The bill also targets county and city emergency orders that address purported emergencies but that also infringe the rights or liberties of Floridians. To protect Floridians from these orders the bill:

Requires the governmental entity imposing an ordinance or other measure that deprives a person of a right or liberty to prove that the measure is “narrowly tailored” to address a “compelling public health or safety purpose”;
Authorizes the Governor to invalidate an order that “unnecessarily restricts individual rights or liberties”; and
Limits the duration of emergency orders to 7 days, with the option to renew the orders up to 5 times.


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The bill also prohibits requirements of COVID-19-vaccination documentation to access, enter, or receive service from businesses, governmental entities, and educational institution. The bill prohibits such entities from requiring Floridians to provide proof of vaccination or post-infection recovery from COVID-19 but does not restrict the use of screening protocols.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
57856 posts
Posted on 3/27/23 at 8:50 am to
Actual text of the bill, not just snippets from some Trump fanatic.

More bill text for you cult members that Gumbopot didn't read.

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1121 381.00316 COVID-19 vaccine documentation.—
1122 (1) A business entity, as defined in s. 768.38 to include
1123 any business operating in this state, may not require patrons or
1124 customers to provide any documentation certifying COVID-19
1125 vaccination or post-infection recovery to gain access to, entry
1126 upon, or service from the business operations in this state.

1127 This subsection does not otherwise restrict businesses from
1128 instituting screening protocols consistent with authoritative or
1129 controlling government-issued guidance to protect public health.
1130 (2) A governmental entity as defined in s. 768.38 may not
1131 require persons to provide any documentation certifying COVID-19
1132 vaccination or post-infection recovery to gain access to, entry
1133 upon, or service from the governmental entity’s operations in
1134 this state. This subsection does not otherwise restrict
1135 governmental entities from instituting screening protocols
1136 consistent with authoritative or controlling government-issued
1137 guidance to protect public health.
1138 (3) An educational institution as defined in s. 768.38 may
1139 not require students or residents to provide any documentation
1140 certifying COVID-19 vaccination or post-infection recovery for
1141 attendance or enrollment, or to gain access to, entry upon, or
1142 service from such educational institution in this state. This
1143 subsection does not otherwise restrict educational institutions
1144 from instituting screening protocols consistent with
1145 authoritative or controlling government-issued guidance to
1146 protect public health.


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1187 (c) A district medical examiner shall assist the State
1188 Health Officer in identifying and reporting deaths upon a
1189 request by the State Health Officer under s. 381.00315.


You're such a hack, gumbopot. You are a leftist, just of another color.
This post was edited on 3/27/23 at 8:53 am
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
140573 posts
Posted on 3/27/23 at 8:57 am to
Okay.

BTW, settle down.
Posted by Chrome
Chromeville
Member since Nov 2007
13287 posts
Posted on 3/27/23 at 9:03 am to
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“order an individual to be examined, tested, vaccinated, treated, isolated, or quarantined for communicable diseases,” if those health authorities believe the diseases “have significant morbidity or mortality and present a severe danger to public health.”


I'm more concerned about who is able to make these determinations. Our government has already demonstrated that politics and money trump science.
Posted by PeleofAnalytics
Member since Jun 2021
5384 posts
Posted on 3/27/23 at 9:04 am to
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If you’re foolishness enough to get a vax, I’ll assume you make shitty political decisions

Trump reveals he got COVID-19 booster shot; crowd boos him

So you are telling us you assume Trump makes "shitty political decisions". I await the pretzel logic excuse on this one.
This post was edited on 3/27/23 at 9:07 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476637 posts
Posted on 3/27/23 at 9:07 am to
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I'm more concerned about who is able to make these determinations. Our government has already demonstrated that politics and money trump science.

I get this.

My point was the scary language seemed to exist in the prior version of the law and RDS did nothing in relation to it (as the bill just modified other language).
Posted by Giantkiller
the internet.
Member since Sep 2007
25436 posts
Posted on 3/27/23 at 9:12 am to
I like Ron and I feel like he has a real future in the GOP. But if he doesn't tell the Bushes to get fricked, he's going to be complete and total toast.

As expected, an awful lot of bad actors will attempt to lead him astray. If someone doesn't pull him over to reality, it's not only going to doom him for 2024; it very much has the potential to doom him for good.
Posted by St Augustine
The Pauper of the Surf
Member since Mar 2006
72127 posts
Posted on 3/27/23 at 9:14 am to
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Okay. BTW, settle down.


You’re the one coming in here posting completely fabricated bullshite.
This post was edited on 3/27/23 at 9:14 am
Posted by ShinerHorns
El Paso
Member since Jul 2021
5617 posts
Posted on 3/27/23 at 9:14 am to
Lockdown Ron is a nasty person folks. The guy needs to learn a thing or two from Trump.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
130244 posts
Posted on 3/27/23 at 9:17 am to
Worse than a lib, flat out lying as usual, caught red handed, says "calm down"
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 3/27/23 at 9:18 am to
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You’re the one coming in here posting completely fabricated bullshite.


The Bro Cult way.
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