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re: Disney Whistleblower Claims Parks Revenue Was Overstated By Billions

Posted on 8/20/19 at 7:45 am to
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 8/20/19 at 7:45 am to
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"A former financial analyst at the Walt Disney Co. is claiming the company regularly overstating its amusement parks revenue by billions of dollars, according to a new report.
Marketwatch reports that Sandra Kuba, who was a senior financial analyst in Disney’s revenue-operations department, alleges that employees working in the parks-and-resorts business segment systematically overstated revenue by billions of dollars by exploiting weaknesses in the company’s accounting software."




Hopefully they overstated liabilities in the same proportion as to not overpay on taxes. Otherwise really really dumb move but makes governments happy.
Posted by RobbBobb
Matt Flynn, BCS MVP
Member since Feb 2007
27935 posts
Posted on 8/20/19 at 8:18 am to
It is true

All you have to know is that Disney pays for good reviews, and for empty seats in theaters in order to prop up the bottom line

You don't really think they sold a billion dollars worth of tickets in the US on a single comic book movie, do you? That's over 150M tickets! There are only 300 million people in the US, including infants and nursing home peeps. Disney creatively accounted for those numbers
Posted by Pussykat
South Louisiana
Member since Oct 2016
3889 posts
Posted on 8/20/19 at 8:21 am to
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Consulting work also is a pretty 2003 Sox world. A little tax or due diligence maybe but the good ole days of enronesque consulting projects are gone.



This is true, auditing standards changed after Enron/AA
Posted by Quidam65
Q Continuum
Member since Jun 2010
19309 posts
Posted on 8/20/19 at 8:25 am to
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This is true, auditing standards changed after Enron/AA


But just because the audit firm can't do consulting means little when the major accounting firms are a oligopoly. Do you really think PriceWaterhouseCoopers is going to take a position against KPMG, E&Y, or Deloitte?
Posted by Pussykat
South Louisiana
Member since Oct 2016
3889 posts
Posted on 8/20/19 at 8:27 am to
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Do you really think PriceWaterhouseCoopers is going to take a position against KPMG, E&Y, or Deloitte?


Yes I do.
Posted by HubbaBubba
F_uck Joe Biden, TX
Member since Oct 2010
45784 posts
Posted on 8/20/19 at 8:40 am to
It seems like it might have legs, based on the stage of the SEC investigation.

Seems pretty easy if they on fact had an accounting loophole allowing them to recognize revenue twice, or code revenue for tax savings. I'm wondering if the state and city will press for the audit and potential recovered revenue and subsequent fines, or if they are complicit with a wink and a nod to the corruption and don't want to upset their mouse-eared overlord?
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37115 posts
Posted on 8/20/19 at 9:12 am to
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This is nonsense - simply a part of the MSM effort to kneecap the Trump economy


By kneecapping a SJW favorite - The Disney Co?
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37115 posts
Posted on 8/20/19 at 9:14 am to
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You don't really think they sold a billion dollars worth of tickets in the US on a single comic book movie, do you? That's over 150M tickets!


What the hell theater are you going to where tickets cost only $6.67 per person? Also, the billion is a world-wide number, not just US tickets.
Posted by NPComb
Member since Jan 2019
27380 posts
Posted on 8/20/19 at 9:16 am to
Price of park tix bout to go up
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37115 posts
Posted on 8/20/19 at 9:20 am to
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igoringa


You notice how all these claims are based on inflation of revenue, and not net revenue / profit?

For example, the gift card revenue being recorded at face value instead of sales price. Sure, that increases revenue. But in order for the math to work, you have to also create an expense or allowance account. So, the net effect on the financials is zero.

But the stock market these days seems to care more about gross revenues than net revenues. So that's why the incentive is there. However, that also means that it's not likely that they overpaid their taxes if this fraud did occur.

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The talk of 8 billion in 2009 is preposterous. The whole theme park segment only had about 9.6 billion in revenue that year. You think 80 percent of that was fake and no one came? This is a lunatic claim.


Remember 2009 was a devastating year for tourism due to the economic conditions at the time. I think 80 percent that is claimed is stupid nuts, but if you told me they fudged 20 -30 percent, I'd be willing to consider that possible. I'd have to look at the couple of years before and after to see the trend. If 2009 was above 2007 for example, that would be an immediate red flag.
Posted by fatboydave
Fat boy land
Member since Aug 2004
17979 posts
Posted on 8/20/19 at 9:40 am to
These are not the frauds you are looking for
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