re: Director of FBI just named Acting Director of ATF

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ATF should be the very first agency eliminated.

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I also have the option now of moving to a state that uses the buyer's conceal carry permit rather than the federal background check. I think there are 8 states currently doing it. An option I may check more into.

But yes
ATF needs to be burned to the ground.

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Need to roll DHS into this ball too.

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DHS was only founded to spy on people, following the 911 attacks.
Get rid of them.

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ATF is actually a very very lowercase a and T, a LARGE capital F and then a somewhat small silent e on the end.

ATF does virtually no alcohol or Tabasco cases, focus mainly on 922(g) charges which is federal felon in possession. These cases are 99.9% adoptions from local agency traffic stops and requires minimal work from agents. ATF agents will also attempt to conduct drug cases because “people who deal drugs also have guns” which should be eliminated and their mission redefined.

ATF was also founded as a regulatory component, not a federal LE arm. Glad AG reassigned the 5 atf folks who were working on alcohol and Tabasco violations to other more critical aspects. At fletc, atf doesn’t even touch on alcohol training and does a small training block on Tobacco enforcement.

ATF makes internal policies regarding some firearm attachments and attempts to threaten citizens with that. Also, fbi does BICS checks, which is what is done when you’re at academy and attempt to purchase a gun, not atf. Additionally, years ago, congress made fbi the bomb tech certifying agency which is why any certified bomb tech in the United States goes thru FBI hazardous devices school in Huntsville, including atf bomb techs. ATF runs an “internal” bomb tech school, but they do not learn how to render safe and are not fully certified.

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Georgia is one of those states and I have been advised to go through that process, but Georgia also has Constitutional Carry now, so why register myself through that system too?

The whole damn process is unconstitutional and should just be eliminated.

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Agreed! The second amendment spells is out loud and clear!

To be honest, IMO, a carry permit helps you out if you end up in court. As showing that a person has taken on a level of responsibility, and if required by their state, training.

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Good! Maybe it won't take so long to get background checks done now.

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They need to do away with checks for getting full automatic, suppressors, short barreled rifles and shotguns. But if you use one in a crime then automatic death sentence. Would eventually work itself out.

When does he repeal the NFA?

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This. Take your best explosive and firearm trafficking experts from ATF and lay off the rest, then fold those elite people and units into the FBI (which would also be massively shrunk and reorganized by that time). There is no need for the two to exist separately anymore. Secret Service duties that involve anything other than protecting the top individuals within our government also need to be moved to this new FBI/ATF combination agency, and the SS agents that are elite at counterfit detection and takedown need to be moved over - while the rest are trimmed there too. Secret Service, FBI, and ATF have several overlapping duties that could easily be rolled into one agency. Secret Service should only exist to physically protect the VIPs, FBI can handle threats against those VIPs and counterfit money operations.

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So the issue with removing secret service investigative role I believe would cause an OPM issue. Agents job code is a 1811 criminal investigator. This position provides for a 25% law enforcement availability pay (leap) where you get an extra 25% of your pay to cover OT. Secret service is a rare federal agency where agents can actually get OT, especially election years.

By removing investigative functions, I believe USSS would no longer qualify for this pay and would be unable to retain or recruit folks.

Side note- I also 100% agree with Bongino that the white collar side of USSS is protected by management to ensure agents have retirement gigs at financial institutions.

Eta - also- if you’re combining atf and usss to fbi, what about DEA?

As usual, 47 is playing chess, everyone else checkers. Absolutely makes sense to put the ATF as part of the FBI. Less bureaucracy, more effective, better communication and quicker sharing of information.