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re: Did Zelenskyy turn tail and hide?

Posted on 11/23/24 at 1:36 pm to
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 11/23/24 at 1:36 pm to
You have a belief of what Russia might do if they win. The Ukrainians have a memory of what the Russians did do the last time they did it.


Read about what the Soviets (Russians) did in the 20s and 30s or listen to Daryl Cooper's podcast called the Anti-Humans. If I were the Ukrainians I would be hesitant to give them the opportunity.
Posted by SirWinston
Say NO to War
Member since Jul 2014
104464 posts
Posted on 11/23/24 at 1:41 pm to
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Putin could send a real clear message to the world by eliminating Zelensky.


Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
37411 posts
Posted on 11/23/24 at 1:43 pm to
So you're willing to trust Putin ( or his successor) in 5 years after he takes all of Ukraine and affects a sort of Anschluss with Belarus? If that's the case, are you willing to uphold our treaty commitments to Romania,Poland and the Baltics.....or will you just decide to punt on that as well?
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
42539 posts
Posted on 11/23/24 at 1:50 pm to
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Putin could send a real clear message to the world by eliminating Zelensky.


Zekensky isn’t the bad guy. The war began 8 years before he took office.

The campaign here to make him sound like the instigator of this conflict is pure propaganda.
Posted by Northshoretiger87
Member since Apr 2016
4954 posts
Posted on 11/23/24 at 1:59 pm to
Very well said. I hold this same view, and find it silly to continue being told that we should be standing up for a corrupt front in a country which benefits us with nothing except a very violent World War. Trump’s election will be a giant win if this war comes to an end regardless of outcome.
Posted by Lord of the Hogs
Member since Sep 2023
3570 posts
Posted on 11/23/24 at 2:03 pm to
Jews, not Russians, played the heavy role in the mass killings of Ukrainians in the 20’s and 30’s.

People don’t like the truth when it comes to Jewish Bolshevism, it seems.
This post was edited on 11/23/24 at 2:55 pm
Posted by Lord of the Hogs
Member since Sep 2023
3570 posts
Posted on 11/23/24 at 2:07 pm to
Zelensky is the bad guy here in that he’s the useful idiot for the globalists. He’s willing to bleed Ukraine dry while he goes off and lives in Israel or somewhere else.
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
Team Bitter Clinger
Member since May 2020
24857 posts
Posted on 11/23/24 at 2:15 pm to
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Is he smart enough to realize that Putin's missiles are bigger than his?


The jokes write themselves when it comes to that midget circus clown…

This post was edited on 11/23/24 at 2:17 pm
Posted by SirWinston
Say NO to War
Member since Jul 2014
104464 posts
Posted on 11/23/24 at 2:20 pm to
Russia would clearly get their asses kicked if they tried to invade Poland
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
37411 posts
Posted on 11/23/24 at 3:09 pm to
So you maintain that Stalin was completely ignorant of what guys like Beria were doing and did not implicitly or even explicitly sanction what was done in the name of the Soviets (Russians). Or was it simply a minor excess by his revolutionary brethren?

What about what the Russians did to dissidents in Easter Europe after the war in places like Hungary, Poland and the Baltic states?
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
37411 posts
Posted on 11/23/24 at 3:19 pm to
You allow Russia to maintain and consolidate their gains in all of this, affect a peace deal. Russian troops will be on the Bessarabian Gap (Moldova) in 5 years. You'll see the NATO base at Constanta in Romania become the biggest and busiest in the world and a large troop presence established on the Polish frontier with Ukraine.

You give him a free reign in Ukraine unencumbered he'll take all of Ukraine and Moldova. Then the Russians will then dictate.
Posted by Lord of the Hogs
Member since Sep 2023
3570 posts
Posted on 11/23/24 at 3:28 pm to
Of course actual Russians took part in Bolshevism, but Jews played leading roles in all of it, even under Stalin.
Posted by H newman
Member since Oct 2021
2111 posts
Posted on 11/23/24 at 3:40 pm to
Putin wanted a treaty or guarantee the Ukraine would not be allowed to join nato. I can't blame him.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
42539 posts
Posted on 11/23/24 at 4:23 pm to
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Zelensky is the bad guy here in that he’s the useful idiot for the globalists. He’s willing to bleed Ukraine dry while he goes off and lives in Israel or somewhere else.


Putin sent Russian troops into Ukraine in 2014. The war is Putin’s war.
This post was edited on 11/23/24 at 5:55 pm
Posted by FLTech
he/won
Member since Sep 2017
28097 posts
Posted on 11/23/24 at 4:55 pm to
He just got paid again so he’s probably on a cocaine and hooker binge
Posted by TigerAxeOK
Where I lay my head is home.
Member since Dec 2016
37829 posts
Posted on 11/24/24 at 12:51 pm to
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So you're willing to trust Putin

I have pretty clearly and unequivocally stated on multiple occasions that I don't like Putin and will never trust him. But this is always where the conversation leads. I point out that both sides are in the wrong, and it somehow paints me as sucking Putin off.

They (foreign and domestic government brass) can all go to hell, and that's my stance. They're in it for themselves and not their people, and that goes for Putin, Zelenskyy and Biden.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
37067 posts
Posted on 11/24/24 at 12:54 pm to
Ukraine isn’t using them as a show of force as Russia is doing. They’re wanting to hit logistics behind the border.
Posted by Bsquared
Member since Oct 2017
41 posts
Posted on 11/24/24 at 1:31 pm to
Can they both lose the war
Posted by Jasharts77
Knoxville
Member since Nov 2019
1097 posts
Posted on 11/24/24 at 1:59 pm to
He got his mama a nice place in Egypt this year. Might be hold up at one of many estates they have acquired over the last 4 years
Posted by lake chuck fan
Vinton
Member since Aug 2011
23610 posts
Posted on 11/24/24 at 2:58 pm to
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in 5 years after he takes all of Ukraine



Where is this verified??? Link?
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