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re: Did we ever get an answer as to what "meddling" took place??

Posted on 7/17/18 at 3:00 pm to
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 7/17/18 at 3:00 pm to
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Our intelligence Community says that they indeed did meddle and Putin said it also so it's confirmed by two sides.


I think we are asking you to define “meddling”

Are we talking:

A. Some Facebook ads and internet trolls

Or

B. The Russians hacked the DNC server and exposed the emails

If A, no one really gives a shite
If B, can you provide definitive proof of that?
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26991 posts
Posted on 7/17/18 at 3:05 pm to
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B. The Russians hacked the DNC server and exposed the emails

If A, no one really gives a shite
If B, can you provide definitive proof of that?


This is certainly not definitive proof, but again, in his interview, Putin defended the right of American voters to know what was in those emails.

And he's right.
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 7/17/18 at 3:15 pm to
if Putin saying “Americans have a right to know” is our threshold for a guilty convinction, Hillary Clinton’s lifeless body would be hanging in the gallows

That can’t be their only evidence right?
Posted by texridder
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Oct 2017
14230 posts
Posted on 7/17/18 at 3:17 pm to
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so I would want them to hire someone to take images of all of their servers, like the DNC did.
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Well sin't that convenient.

It's called a forensic image. The DOJ has a whole protocol of how the forensic image is taken and how a Digital Forensic Analysis is conducted. It is standard procedure. The JOJ/FBI doesn't go out and collect all of the physical servers. Give me A break.

Only Trump, and those who blindly believe everything Trump says (like you), believe that.


This post was edited on 7/17/18 at 3:31 pm
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Posted on 7/17/18 at 3:28 pm to
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Posted by texridder
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Posted on 7/17/18 at 5:31 pm to
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Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
48636 posts
Posted on 7/17/18 at 5:35 pm to
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The DOJ has a whole protocol of how the forensic image is taken and how a Digital Forensic Analysis is conducted. It is standard procedure. The JOJ/FBI doesn't go out and collect all of the physical servers. Give me A break.


Then why did the DOJ request the server?
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 7/17/18 at 5:46 pm to
Still no answer in this thread to the actual question

Because they lack one
Posted by ILeaveAtHalftime
Member since Sep 2013
2889 posts
Posted on 7/17/18 at 5:53 pm to
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Still no answer in this thread to the actual question


This. They use “meddling in our election” as if it is a term of art yet never define it. Same with “interfering in our democracy”. Both phrases make me cringe. Nothing by platitudes that have become typical of our political discourse

Phishing a private organization, and spreading fake social media articles are not “meddling in an election”. If they are, there are dozens and dozens of domestic groups and individuals who are guilty of the same act. As there would be in any society that encourages the free flow of information, regardless of its validity. The onus is on the individual to verify the information they consume.
This post was edited on 7/17/18 at 5:57 pm
Posted by ILeaveAtHalftime
Member since Sep 2013
2889 posts
Posted on 7/17/18 at 5:55 pm to
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Putin defended the right of American voters to know what was in those emails.


I am firmly convinced that all of this Russian hoopla is pure partisan nonsense. It does not matter to me one iota if the Russians phished the DNC.
However, gaining access to a private, non-governmental entity’s inter-organizational communications is absolutely not a right.
Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
63650 posts
Posted on 7/17/18 at 5:59 pm to
Whether they affected the election results doesn’t change the seriousness of the aggression.

To your question, it appears they were seeking negative info on Clinton in order to help Trump’s campaign. Plus using false websites and identities to spread phony info on social media.
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
21784 posts
Posted on 7/17/18 at 6:37 pm to
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The Russians hacked into the DNC server in order to help Donald Trump win.


You're not a mind reader, so slow the frick down on the motive assertions.

They also tried to hack the RNC.

Honestly if I had to guess they're trying to sow chaos into our political system and the Democrats are playing into it perfectly.
Posted by texridder
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Oct 2017
14230 posts
Posted on 7/17/18 at 6:51 pm to
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but did not break into the Republican National Committee’s current system, according to JamesComey.

Comey did testify they didn't get into the current RNC server, although they did hit some state Republican organizations..
Posted by Lg
Hayden, Alabama
Member since Jul 2011
6859 posts
Posted on 7/17/18 at 7:00 pm to
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To your question, it appears they were seeking negative info on Clinton in order to help Trump’s campaign. Plus using false websites and identities to spread phony info on social media.


Didn't the Dossier come from Russian intel? That was favorable to Trump?
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
42753 posts
Posted on 7/17/18 at 7:04 pm to
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seriousness of the aggression.


Are you serious???:

You think this 'aggression' was 'serious?"

Was it as 'serious' as the DNC rigging the primary for HRC? = that serious?

Was it as 'serious' as HRC selling the office of SoS to the highest bidder? = that serious?

OR - is it just serious that the 'hacker' revealed the criminal activity of the HRC/DNC coven.

I just wonder how upset the prog/DEM/MSM cabal would be if the Russians and succeeded in hacking into the RNC server and reveals some chicanery by Trump is securing the primary over Cruz, for example. Say something like a payoff to someone, or losing ballots.

Would you really be yelling SERIOUS AGGRESSION!!!!!

I think not.

This is a situational outrage. Like all other prog/DEM/MSM/Academe 'outrage.'

Serious my arse.
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