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re: Did Trump lie about being in a helicopter with Willie Brown?
Posted on 8/9/24 at 11:02 am to exiledhogfan
Posted on 8/9/24 at 11:02 am to exiledhogfan
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I truly want to someone to explain this to me. Please, answer the question I ask. Don't reply with "but somebody else lied once ..."
During Trump's news conference yesterday, he told a story about "going down" in a helicopter with Willie Brown, former mayor of San Francisco. AT the time, the story made no sense, because why would Trump be with Willie Brown? Anyway, Brown later said it never happened. Said he had never been in a helicopter with Trump.
So, if Trump will just make up a story like that, when there is no reason whatsoever to do so, how can you believe him when he talks about something important?
There are really only two answers. One, you believe he is telling the truth and your eyes and ears and everyone else is lying. Two, you know he's lying, but you don't care for whatever reason. So, which is it?
I don’t know what story you’re referencing, but it doesn’t matter.
Trump is a vehicle to coalesce the right wing population. What he says more or less doesn’t matter, as long as the core movement is stable. You and your side have repeatedly shown you cannot be reasoned with and you do nothing but subvert and destroy. So at worst he and his administration can be a staging point to catch our breath and figure out what to do going forward.
One day hopefully we can have a hard right authoritarian regime, and jail all communists, leftists, and their sympathizers. This won’t be that, but it’s a step in the right direction.
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Posted on 8/9/24 at 11:03 am to exiledhogfan
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So, if Trump will just make up a story like that, when there is no reason whatsoever to do so, how can you believe him when he talks about something important?
Joe Biden claimed to be arrested with Nelson Mandela in South Africa protesting with him. Kamala Harris claims to be the little girl that MLK talked about screaming “Fweedom!” Hillary Clinton claimed that she was named after Ser Edmund Hillary, the first man (or at least white guy) to climb Mount Everest, but he scaled Everest three years after Hillary was born.
All of those people are much bigger liars than Donald Trump. Those lies individually are worse than Trump being on a helicopter with Willie Brown, and Willie Brown himself is not a reliable narrator so who knows who’s telling the truth here.
But I don’t give a frick about any of that and more care about avoiding World War III, medical and techno tyranny, a 1929 level of depression, and an open border where terrorist and CCP agents are coming over en masse, so frick right off, you Blue Anon loon.
This post was edited on 8/9/24 at 11:11 am
Posted on 8/9/24 at 11:03 am to exiledhogfan
quote:Because I can look to other sources for verification. If he says unemployment is up, I can find the data that confirms it. If he says prices at the grocery store have increased considerably under Biden/Harris, I can look it up and head to the store and note that he is correct. If he says Kamala was called the Border Czar, I can go to YouTube and find dozens of media stories that confirm she was indeed called the "Border Czar." If he says jobs are being moved overseas, I can look up that data and confirm its true. If he says illegals have crossing at record rates the last 3.5 years, I can find the data and many stories, even by Democrat sympathetic publications that confirm it. I can also call bullshite when he says something like he created the greatest economy in this country's history because I can look up that while it was very good, there were periods of better growth in the past.
So, if Trump will just make up a story like that, when there is no reason whatsoever to do so, how can you believe him when he talks about something important?
There, I've answered your question.
I have one for you...
The democrats told you Biden was competent for years when, clearly he was not. How do you know they aren't lying about Harris' ability and competence to be president. They hid her for 4 years.
Posted on 8/9/24 at 11:03 am to GumboPot
quote:
Trump confused Willie Brown with Jerry Brown
OP has no idea who Willie nor Jerry Brown were but is definitely concerned about Trump's story.
But no concern for a special council testifying that the current president is too dumb to prosecute
Posted on 8/9/24 at 11:03 am to exiledhogfan
Politicians lie, almost to the point now that I just expect it.
Kamala says she wasn’t border Czar, she was. She’s also Indian.
Hillary said she landed under fire in Bosnia, she didn’t.
I’m voting for the one who will lower gas and grocery prices.
Kamala says she wasn’t border Czar, she was. She’s also Indian.
Hillary said she landed under fire in Bosnia, she didn’t.
I’m voting for the one who will lower gas and grocery prices.
Posted on 8/9/24 at 11:04 am to exiledhogfan
She's going for the childless cat lady vote!
Posted on 8/9/24 at 11:06 am to Jimmy Montrose
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I just think Trump supporters love it when he rifs like this. That and stuff like the comparisons with MLK.
It's just kind of funny/crazy and it pisses the libs off. Mission accomplished.
I personally think he'd get more votes out of just talking bad Dem policy, but what's the fun in that?
Plus, people have already decided.
I think everyone has had a friend or two that has these embellishment and fairytale tendencies. My anecdote, the two that I know are very successful salesmen in medical and financial services. They like to talk a good game and it is completely evident when they are stretching the truth or need to be serious. They are good guys, have awesome families and are fun to be around.
Posted on 8/9/24 at 11:06 am to exiledhogfan
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Why don't you answer the god damn question? I'll answer yours since you obviously refuse. There is no circumstance in which I would vote for Trump for anything. He is a conman. He is a grifter. He is a fricking failure at everything he has ever done, EXCEPT part fools from their money. He couldn't care less about anyone other than himself and Ivanka. He ran for president for one reason and one reason only -- President Obama made fun of him to his face at a White House Correspondents Dinner, and that pissed him off. He is a draft-dodging coward. No policy position will ever be worth more than those facts.
You sound like a woman. Either way, you’re being emotional and your vision is obviously obscured.
Posted on 8/9/24 at 11:06 am to exiledhogfan
Have you considered that Willie Brown is lying about it later rather than Trump lying about it to begin with? Were you there or is this hearsay on your part?
You make a lot of assumptions and then use them as a basis for accusation.
Bring us some concrete evidence that Wille didn't lie about it to cover his arse with his lefty friends. Until then, you're contributing to climate change with all the hot air you're blowing.
ETA: Photo of Trump and Willie Brown at same table-
(Thanks to Night Vision for providing the photo)
You make a lot of assumptions and then use them as a basis for accusation.
Bring us some concrete evidence that Wille didn't lie about it to cover his arse with his lefty friends. Until then, you're contributing to climate change with all the hot air you're blowing.
ETA: Photo of Trump and Willie Brown at same table-
(Thanks to Night Vision for providing the photo)
This post was edited on 8/9/24 at 11:40 am
Posted on 8/9/24 at 11:07 am to Mushroom1968
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To be fair, we are still waiting on why it was ok for Kamala to lie about Biden’s health and have yet to receive an answer
Yes, this lie could have led to nuclear holocaust, and still might. If Kim Jong Un tries some shite while Biden is still in office, there’s like a what 30% chance that Biden will demand a nuclear strike on South Korea? That’s an actual lie with ramifications.
Like I give a frick about a lie of Trump being on a helicopter with Willie Brown, and Willie himself may be lying and not Trump. Or maybe Willie has forgotten he was ever in a helicopter with Trump and thinks he’s telling the truth. He’s fricking 90 so that’s decently likely as well.
Posted on 8/9/24 at 11:08 am to CarRamrod
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What makes you think Trump is lying and not Brown?
Also Willie is 90, so maybe they both think they’re telling the truth and Willie has no memory of being in a helicopter with Trump. That’s decently likely.
Posted on 8/9/24 at 11:09 am to exiledhogfan
quote:Before anyone could answer this, you'd have to show your work to prove Trump was lying and not Brown.
During Trump's news conference yesterday, he told a story about "going down" in a helicopter with Willie Brown, former mayor of San Francisco. AT the time, the story made no sense, because why would Trump be with Willie Brown? Anyway, Brown later said it never happened. Said he had never been in a helicopter with Trump.
So, if Trump will just make up a story like that, when there is no reason whatsoever to do so, how can you believe him when he talks about something important?
Did you do that? Or did you jus assume Trump was lying because it fits a narrative you want to believe?
quote:Same question could go back to you, or are you asserting that Kamala has never lied to the general public?
(I thought surely a few people would at least try to answer the question. Nope. Just a buncha "but what about" bullshite. Enjoy the arse kicking that is coming in November. Some of y'all are really gonna hate having a Black woman as YOUR president.)
Posted on 8/9/24 at 11:09 am to exiledhogfan
Trump can run on his record. if you're too dumb to like a strong economy, which you are, that's your problem
Posted on 8/9/24 at 11:10 am to exiledhogfan
quote:Your question is based on an assertion you made that you don't know if it is even true.
Why don't you answer the god damn question?
You're really, really bad at this. Try to do better next time
Posted on 8/9/24 at 11:11 am to exiledhogfan
OP is BIG MAD 
Can't vote for Trump because he's a "con man, grifter, and draft dodger."
But then he voted for Biden.
Yep, BIG MAD
Can't vote for Trump because he's a "con man, grifter, and draft dodger."
But then he voted for Biden.
quote:
(I thought surely a few people would at least try to answer the question. Nope. Just a buncha "but what about" bullshite. Enjoy the arse kicking that is coming in November. Some of y'all are really gonna hate having a Black woman as YOUR president.)
Yep, BIG MAD
Posted on 8/9/24 at 11:12 am to lsuguy84
Hey you finally got an answer to this question...kinda. Angry little govt' dependent guy hates Trump. That's Harris' best policy apparently.
Posted on 8/9/24 at 11:13 am to exiledhogfan
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god damn, it was yesterday; his hourlong news conference; carried by every major tv network do you people not pay any attention at all?
You mad, queer?
Posted on 8/9/24 at 11:13 am to exiledhogfan
quote:
I thought surely a few people would at least try to answer the question. Nope. Just a buncha "but what about" bullshite.
Trump misremembered. It was Jerry Brown; not Willie Brown. He didn't make the story up.
Posted on 8/9/24 at 11:14 am to exiledhogfan
It doesn’t matter. This is about saving our country. I’m not hiring a sunday school teacher or personal employee. The choice is what it is. An extreme communist administration who believes babies can be aborted up until delivery, that the state can take action against parents who oppose genital mutation of their children, that pedophilia should be included as a sexual preference, that fracking and offshore oil and gas production should be stopped, that rioters who burn down innocent business owner’s property should not be punished, that police are the problem…or someone you say “lies”. Give me the liar any day.
Posted on 8/9/24 at 11:15 am to AlterDWI
Do better Politards. Don’t give this sociopath the attention they crave. There’s a reason they support the party of unhinged groomers
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