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re: Did Trump just draw a red line in the sand between him and Mitch?
Posted on 7/1/21 at 12:44 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
Posted on 7/1/21 at 12:44 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
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STRAIGHT TICKET VOTING did that.
Indeed it contributed bigly and its an abomination just as bad as ranked choice voting, but I still stand my point about Trump endorsement being a double edged sword no matter how necessary it was and still is; democrats are getting their people to the polls, you have to get yours to the polls as well.
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it was removed for 2020
Biggest factor as to why Texas stayed red in addition to RGV going red as well.
Looking forward to more clean up in the special session on July 8.
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Posted on 7/1/21 at 12:44 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
I don't understand people like Sentrius. Obviously an intelligent person. But that same person insists that the same old same old is absolutely the correct play and the solution to all our ails. The dissonance mystifies me.
Posted on 7/1/21 at 12:47 pm to Comic_Tiger
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that same person insists that the same old same old is absolutely the correct play
I have never said this.
At all.
I'm just stating what reality is and why Trump is unlikely to be successful in removing Mitch from his position as GOP leader. A majority of GOP senators are fine with Mitch and Trump deosn't have the numbers to win against him.
If I had my way, someone like Ted Cruz with Mitch's institutional knowledge and discipline would be the leader here.
This post was edited on 7/1/21 at 12:48 pm
Posted on 7/1/21 at 12:49 pm to Sentrius
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If I had my way, someone like Ted Cruz with Mitch's institutional knowledge and discipline would be the leader here.
If I had MY way the parties wouldn't be allowed to select their own congressional leadership, the general public would. The parties would only be able to submit candidates for consideration.
Posted on 7/1/21 at 12:53 pm to Sentrius
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You may not like the result from a conservative standpoint but Mitch likes it and as long enough as enough GOP senators agree with it, that's all that matters.
You're arguing against numbers here, GOPe numbers that's indisposed against Trump.
So, you just can't answer the question. You're the one who made the assertion that McConnell can and does successfully negotiate against marxist democrats. Yet you can't provide one example of him doing so. It doesn't matter who likes the results. You can't provide one single instance of McConnell going to battle with the marxists, and unequivocally kicking their teeth in. Not once in 20 years. Not once, when conservative ideas win with the American people, every fricking time. Not once, when it has overwhelmingly been marxist democrats shitting on the Constitution, the Founding Fathers, and our founding principles and ideals. Think about it.
Posted on 7/1/21 at 12:58 pm to Sentrius
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knows how to win in negotiations against democrats
Are you drunk?Posted on 7/1/21 at 12:59 pm to troyt37
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successfully negotiate against marxist democrats
He's dealing with democrat leadership. Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi are not marxists much to the chagrin of actual marxist democrats. They're corporatist neoliberals that do everything they can to screw over marxists when their interests are at play.
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You can't provide one single instance of McConnell going to battle with the marxists
Marxists may not be in leadership of democrats but Mitch is winning big time against them on HR 1, the Pro act and their smorgasbord of marxist legislation.
Granted he's getting help from democrats Sinema and Manchin but they're not Marxists either.
Posted on 7/1/21 at 1:04 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
'Prechait the correction. Sometimes I don't pay attention like I should.
Posted on 7/1/21 at 1:05 pm to Sentrius
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successfully negotiate against marxist democrats
He's dealing with democrat leadership. Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi are not marxists much to the chagrin of actual marxist democrats. They're corporatist neoliberals that do everything they can to screw over marxists when their interests are at play.
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You can't provide one single instance of McConnell going to battle with the marxists
Marxists may not be in leadership of democrats but Mitch is winning big time against them on HR 1, the Pro act and their smorgasbord of marxist legislation.
Granted he's getting help from democrats Sinema and Manchin but they're not Marxists either.
Then you agree, he has been an utter failure at negotiations against democrats, whether he was majority leader, minority leader, and whether the house was marxist democrat or republican. Would you like to retract your statement? Because apparently both you and I now know McConnell is a spineless, capitulant shitbag when it comes to negotiating with democrats, marxist or not.
Posted on 7/1/21 at 1:05 pm to BeNotDeceivedGal6_7
Good. Send Mitch and his Chinese bitch back to KY.
Posted on 7/1/21 at 1:07 pm to Sentrius
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If Donald Trump seriously thinks he can convince a majority of GOP senators to remove a man from power who’s a brilliant strategist, has insane institutional knowledge and knows how to win in negotiations against democrats, then he’s sorely mistaken.
All these characteristics that you list here are useless without U.S. Chamber of Commerce funding, the biggest lobby in DC. The only reason Mitch has the power he does, is he does the bidding of the multinationalists members of the U.S. Chamber of Commerce who also pay RINO Republicans (who are for open borders, "free" trade, and more wars) to obey Mitch and do their bidding. The only thing that nationalist patriots have in common with Mitch and the U.S. Chamber of Commerce is lower taxes. Other than that we don't have much in common.
Posted on 7/1/21 at 1:07 pm to Sentrius
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He's dealing with democrat leadership. Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi are not marxists much to the chagrin of actual marxist democrats. They're corporatist neoliberals that do everything they can to screw over marxists when their interests are at play.
part of the reason Trump's Cabinet and Admin were so bad and resulted in so much turnover was RINO's lying to Trump, DC Establishment types promoting and protecting their own and DJT listening to Turtle tell him who they could and could not get confirmed through the Senate.
The line between DJT and Turtle has always been there. It got so bad that DJT had people step down or get fired and he short circuited the Senate Confirmation Process by appointing "interim" Secretaries and Leaders and never pushing for a permanent replacement which neutered some of Mitch's powers.
Turtle has won his last election, he has zero fricks to give and he has zero to offer anyone facing Re-Election in 22 or 24.
Posted on 7/1/21 at 1:11 pm to mytigger
So Mitch is a RINO too? I can't keep track of who is and who isn't. Maybe everyone that doesn't like Trumps balls on their face is a RINO. Most of the good things Trump accomplished in his four years was because of Mitch and his ideas. Oh that's right, he has an Asian wife, he must be a RINO. It's sad to see how many of you get hard-ons when you see or hear Trump. It's embarrassing.
Posted on 7/1/21 at 1:19 pm to troyt37
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he has been an utter failure at negotiations against democrats,
I never said that.
It's just that your definition of failure is entirely different from what Mitch and the GOP senators who support him have.
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Would you like to retract your statement?
No.
Posted on 7/1/21 at 1:19 pm to GumboPot
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U.S. Chamber of Commerce funding
The commerce chamber actually endorsed a lot of democrats last year because they were tired of the "anti-business" mindset Trump was instilling into the GOP and in the past several months since Biden take office, the chamber has eaten shite on those endorsements when democrats kept acting like democrats.
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The only reason Mitch has the power he does, is he does the bidding of the multinationalists members of the U.S. Chamber of Commerce who also pay RINO Republicans (who are for open borders, "free" trade, and more wars) to obey Mitch and do their bidding.
I've been saying more or less the same thing throughout this whole thread and why Trump does not have the numbers to win against Mitch.
And yet I get attacked for it?
Enough GOP senators like what Mitch is doing and as long as that does not change, Trump can't touch Mitch.
Posted on 7/1/21 at 1:22 pm to supatigah
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RINO's lying to Trump, DC Establishment types promoting and protecting their own and DJT listening to Turtle tell him who they could and could not get confirmed through the Senate.
And yet Trump is endorsing enough of those same people to make sure there is nothing that constitutes an anti Mitch majority of GOP senators.
How about that?
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Turtle has won his last election
Nobody really expects Mitch to run in 2026.
In fact, that's why he was able to get the Kentucky legislature to handcuff the democrat Governor's powers in choosing a replacement senator for him and could appoint from just only from 3 choices given to him from the Kentucky GOP.
That's only if Mitch does not serve out the full term.
Posted on 7/1/21 at 1:40 pm to Sentrius
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I never said that.
Right. Your exact quote is "knows how to win in negotiations against democrats," but when asked to provide one example, you hide behind semantics and excuses, and tacitly acknowledge that McConnell hasn't been worth a shite against democrats.
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No.
But no, you don't want to retract your statement that McConnell "knows how to win in negotiations against democrats," because you want to re-define success as capitulating to the marxists. So you're full of shite, know you're full of shite, but want to keep it that way. Pretty much the definition of establishment GOP.
Posted on 7/1/21 at 1:47 pm to troyt37
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Your exact quote is "knows how to win in negotiations against democrats
You're the one talking about marxist democrats. I never said anything about marxist democrats at all.
Especially when the people Mitch is dealing with is democrat leadership and marxists are not in the leadership team and it's all corporatist neoliberals there.
You're the one that brought up marxist democrats here, not me.
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So you're full of shite, know you're full of shite, but want to keep it that way.
What's it like being big mad getting pissed when I point out that you're the one that's talking about the wrong people here?
Posted on 7/1/21 at 1:49 pm to BeNotDeceivedGal6_7
Turtles of his species love them some swamps.
Posted on 7/1/21 at 1:52 pm to cajunangelle
like thats gonna happen.
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