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re: Did Trump just draw a red line in the sand between him and Mitch?

Posted on 7/1/21 at 12:03 pm to
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
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Posted on 7/1/21 at 12:03 pm to
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Adam Kinzinger and Liz Cheney


Going to be redistricted out and lose their primary, respectively.

And good riddance to them.

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CGSC Lobotomy


If you can find 3 posts of mine in the past decade where I effectively praise Cheney and Kinzinger, I'll eat crow here with no hesitation.

Otherwise, stop making shite up you can't prove as fact.
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
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Posted on 7/1/21 at 12:06 pm to
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McConnell-backed candidate vs. Trump-backed candidate in a primary.



What if I told you more often than not, they're endorsing the same person and thus when that candidate wins, Mitch will have much more leverage over him than Trump could ever have?

As long as Trump keeps endorsing establishment stalwarts who kiss his arse and blow smoke up it, Mitch has the leverage here.

Mitch and and Trump endorsing different people is few and far in between so that negates your point.
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
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Posted on 7/1/21 at 12:08 pm to
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You Do understand that Trump could endorse one of their primary opponents and get Mitch out that way .


He's not doing that enough for it to matter and constitute an anti Mitch majority.
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 7/1/21 at 12:10 pm to
Trump endorsements have not meant much thus far.

Trump needs to quit fighting with McConnell. It is foolish.

We need to win in 2022. I think Trump wants republicans to lose in 2022.
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 7/1/21 at 12:10 pm to
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What rock have you been under for the last 15 years?


Already addressed this point above.

It may not be great for grassroots conservatism but its great for Mitch and as long as enough GOP senators agree with that, Mitch stays where he is.
Posted by BayBengal9
Bay St. Louis, MS
Member since Nov 2019
4171 posts
Posted on 7/1/21 at 12:11 pm to
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knows how to win in negotiations against democrats


I can't imagine what would possess me to say something so stupid.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
80285 posts
Posted on 7/1/21 at 12:11 pm to
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Trump endorsements have not meant much thus far.


Resulted in DeSantis becoming Governor of Florida.

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We need to win in 2022.


In your case, "We" means the CCP.
This post was edited on 7/1/21 at 12:13 pm
Posted by lathoroughbred
Louisiana/Kentucky
Member since May 2008
8094 posts
Posted on 7/1/21 at 12:14 pm to
I voted straight republican ticket here in Kentucky. Given who was on the ballot there was no other way to vote.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
80285 posts
Posted on 7/1/21 at 12:15 pm to
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Given who was on the ballot there was no other way to vote.


You could have written in a candidate. Voting straight ticket is never the answer.
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
13347 posts
Posted on 7/1/21 at 12:18 pm to
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Already addressed this point above.


I don't think you did. Your examples of winning negotiations against marxist democrats is piss poor at best. Got anything that constitutes a republican, if not conservative, win?
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 7/1/21 at 12:19 pm to
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Trump endorsements have not meant much thus far.



For the last 6 years, Trump endorsements been pretty conventional and standard for a republican but he has some great gems that has been very important like Ron DeSantis and in my opinion, DeSantis is the most consequential endorsement he's ever made in his life and we can't thank him enough for it.

Trump has also made some really dumb endorsements that enabled the democrat to win or was just simply only a lateral move to another GOPe republican only because that candidate flattered the hell out of the President.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
80285 posts
Posted on 7/1/21 at 12:26 pm to
Ron DeSantis
Ted Cruz (2018)
Daniel Cameron
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 7/1/21 at 12:28 pm to
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Got anything that constitutes a republican, if not conservative, win?



You may not like the result from a conservative standpoint but Mitch likes it and as long enough as enough GOP senators agree with it, that's all that matters.

You're arguing against numbers here, GOPe numbers that's indisposed against Trump.
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 7/1/21 at 12:29 pm to
Why didn't he endorse enough candidates to keep the House? to keep the Senate? if his endorsements are so influential?
Posted by CedarChest
South of Mejico
Member since Jun 2020
2782 posts
Posted on 7/1/21 at 12:29 pm to
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Liz Cheney


Going to be redistricted out and lose their primary, respectively.

And good riddance to them.

How does Liz Cheney get "redistricted" out of her seat when Wyoming only has one house district?
This post was edited on 7/1/21 at 12:31 pm
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
80285 posts
Posted on 7/1/21 at 12:34 pm to
Trump's endorsement of McConnell in 2020 was indeed shitty and a mistake on his part.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
80285 posts
Posted on 7/1/21 at 12:35 pm to
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How does Liz Cheney get "redistricted" out of her seat when Wyoming only has one house district?


Not to defend the uniparty cheerleader here, but redistricted refers to Kinzinger (D-IL) and primary refers to spawn of Palpatine.
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 7/1/21 at 12:37 pm to
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Ted Cruz (2018)


Double edged sword here.

Trump endorsement of Cruz may have brought out the rural conservative voters and enough hard R's to save Cruz but it also energized a lot of democrats and left leaning suburb voters and gave us the Beto wave in Texas that wiped out a lot of GOP officials.

Trump's endorsement of Cruz may have been necessary but damn there was a lot of puckered buttholes on election night.

Greg Abbott was the only republican that was completely safe that year and 100% favored to win.
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 7/1/21 at 12:37 pm to
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How does Liz Cheney get "redistricted" out of her seat when Wyoming only has one house district?



I'm talking about Kinzinger. Illinois democrats are going to redistrict him out of his seat and he's going full MSNBC republican to save his arse and if unsuccessful, set himself up for a lot of lucrative "Strange new respect" in the green rooms of MSNBC and CNN.

You need to understand what respectively means.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
80285 posts
Posted on 7/1/21 at 12:38 pm to
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Trump endorsement of Cruz may have brought out the rural conservative voters and enough hard R's to save Cruz but it also energized a lot of democrats and left leaning suburb voters and gave us the Beto wave in Texas that wiped out a lot of GOP officials.

Trump's endorsement of Cruz may have been necessary but damn there was a lot of puckered buttholes on election night.

Greg Abbott was the only republican that was completely safe that year and 100% favored to win.


No, STRAIGHT TICKET VOTING did that. That's why it was removed for 2020 and beyond.
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