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re: Did Slavery in Africa exist prior to Slavery coming to Americas?

Posted on 6/12/20 at 12:04 pm to
Posted by td1
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Posted on 6/12/20 at 12:04 pm to
According to Webster’s : morals usually connotes an element of subjective preference, while ethics tends to suggest aspects of universal fairness and the question of whether or not an action is responsible.

Preferences and “universal fairness” is subjective, and has certainly been fluid throughout history.
Posted by jeffsdad
Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 6/12/20 at 12:10 pm to
Naive question if serious. Slavery exists all around the world now. North Korea, Muslim countries, slavic countries dominate.
Posted by GeauxFightingTigers1
Member since Oct 2016
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Posted on 6/12/20 at 12:13 pm to
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Where's the anger towards the ancestry history of the African hierarchy that was selling slaves back then and some countries that still practice forms of slavery to this day?

Why does White America have to take the full brunt of the blame for all things slavery in this world and history?


Most likely slavery has existed since the dawn of man.

These stupid mofos are worried about hundreds of years ago, where the hell do these pompous black athletes think their shoes are made by.
This post was edited on 6/12/20 at 12:15 pm
Posted by TigerDat
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Posted on 6/12/20 at 12:15 pm to
It did and it still exists there now
Posted by IslandBuckeye
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Posted on 6/12/20 at 12:15 pm to
Morals and ethics can both be subjective. The former guides the individual and the latter is the collective version from the perspective of the culture/society.

My point may have been a whataboutism but it was in furtherance of a level playing field while pointing fingers.
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
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Posted on 6/12/20 at 12:26 pm to
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If the early Ashanti Empire economy depended on the gold trade in the 1700s, by the early 1800s it had become a major exporter of enslaved people. The slave trade was originally focused north with captives going to Mande and Hausa traders who exchanged them for goods from North Africa and indirectly from Europe. By 1800, the trade had shifted to the south as the Ashanti sought to meet the growing demand of the British, Dutch, and French for captives. In exchange, the Ashanti received luxury items and some manufactured goods including most importantly firearms.


Pelosi, et al, wore the banner (kente cloth) of a people who captured, and traded, other people to the Europeans in exchange for guns to kill other Africans.
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 6/12/20 at 12:27 pm to
Slavery in Africa likely existed when honkies were still cowering in caves, scared of the Sun and shite.
Posted by wickowick
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Posted on 6/12/20 at 12:34 pm to
What wasn’t built in the old world without slave labor?
Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 6/12/20 at 12:35 pm to
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shouldn't we free the current slaves before we worry about past redresses


Based on what we are seeing now, HELL NO...
Posted by roadGator
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Posted on 6/12/20 at 12:36 pm to
Why aren’t the pyramids coming down?
Posted by Willie Stroker
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 6/12/20 at 12:36 pm to
Modern Americans apologizing for slavery would be akin to us apologizing for the Great Depression, unless you are a descendant of FDR.
Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 6/12/20 at 12:38 pm to
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Why aren’t the pyramids coming down?


Those were built by aliens dude... oh wait, are you implying that they aren't being torn down because it was ok to enslave the Children of Israel?
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
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Posted on 6/12/20 at 12:40 pm to
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What wasn’t built in the old world without slave labor?


Maybe a bunch of Jews can go to Egypt and tear down the Pyramids. It's their right!
Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 6/12/20 at 12:41 pm to
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Slavery in Africa likely existed when honkies were still cowering in caves, scared of the Sun and shite.


I won't do it justice but the Hodge Twins video on this had me rolling...

paraphrased: ".... YOU think some pasty white dying from scurvey just off a ship dude ran down your ancestors... captured them and hauled them off? Naw, another black man ran your ancestors down and sold them to the white man..."
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
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Posted on 6/12/20 at 12:41 pm to
I will let you in on a little secret. Slavery still exists in Africa and other places in the world but in Africa there is still an active trade.
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
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Posted on 6/12/20 at 12:47 pm to
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YOU think some pasty white dying from scurvey just off a ship dude ran down your ancestors... captured them and hauled them off? Naw, another black man ran your ancestors down and sold them to the white man..."



Can't argue with this.
Posted by SoloTiger
Member since Aug 2016
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Posted on 6/12/20 at 12:47 pm to
Fact: The Barbaby Pirates of North Africa enslaved more white people than the South enslaved blacks prior to the Civil War. You don't see any white people demanding reparations from the descendants of the Barbary Pirates now do you. That's because they wouldn't be foolish enough to even consider the request.

Also, I wonder who sold the slaves of African descent to plantation owners in the US? You guessed it. They were enslaved by their own people...other blacks...who sold them.

Slavery has existed basically everywhere on the planet aside from western europe. And even those in western europe had slaves in other areas.

What makes slavery in the US somewhat unique is that one race enslaved another race. It has historically occurred within races.
This post was edited on 6/12/20 at 12:51 pm
Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 6/12/20 at 12:58 pm to
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one race enslaved another race.


Egyptians enslaved the Israelites...

English enslaved Africans, Indians, Aboriginees (sp), and Orientals...

The Railroad in the U.S. enslaved Orientals... Then put a bounty on their head...

Rome pretty enslaved the known world...

Persia enslaved numerous races and cultures...

Mongols enslaved numerous races and cultures...

But yeah another race enslaving another race only happened here in the good old USA...
Posted by volod
Leesville, LA
Member since Jun 2014
5392 posts
Posted on 6/12/20 at 1:04 pm to
Slavery in Africa wasn't performed at the same scale as Europeans practiced it. In the Americas and Europe they practiced chattle slavery that was usually racially locked.

African slaves could potentially buy back their freedom (and while this did happen in the Americas, it was a personal decision at the will of the slave master, not a cultural phenomenon like it was in Africa).

That said, Africans still practiced slavery. On a personal note, I think slavery toward your own race is usually overlooked ( not just by Blacks).
Posted by Tiger on the Rag
Cattle Gap Egypt
Member since Jan 2018
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Posted on 6/12/20 at 1:22 pm to
The arab muslims i think were the first to start the selling of slaves
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