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Did Nancy and Schumer make a strategic mistake?
Posted on 12/21/19 at 7:54 am
Posted on 12/21/19 at 7:54 am
Let’s move beyond impeachment for a second... isn’t it strange that Nancy and Chuck have been in a war posture with Trump from day 1... when ideologically they could’ve got a lot of policy wins with working with Trump?
Is it the Dem base that just wouldn’t allow them to work together, politics of winning in 20, or just personal animus that made them go this route?
Is it the Dem base that just wouldn’t allow them to work together, politics of winning in 20, or just personal animus that made them go this route?
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Posted on 12/21/19 at 7:56 am to Lsujacket66
They simply couldn't swallow that America didn't think it was "her turn".
Posted on 12/21/19 at 8:03 am to Crazy Diamond
Nancy did it to keep her power.
They would not pass cure for cancer if they thought it would
cost them some of their power.
They would not pass cure for cancer if they thought it would
cost them some of their power.
Posted on 12/21/19 at 8:12 am to Lsujacket66
The Dems pick ups in the House in 2018 were heavily aided by the Russia collusion hoax. If that crap was not perpetrated on the American people the Republicans might not have lost the House.
Posted on 12/21/19 at 8:15 am to Tiger Roux
I don’t think it was a strategic error at all...it was planned and coordinated to CYA. This entire impeachment (and likely future second term impeachment) is to cover up the illegal spying on Trump’s campaign. This started as soon as Trump made it public that Obama spied on him. This is the biggest scandal in US History and the Dems, Reps and ICs involved are doing everything they can to cover it up. At some point the evidence will be overwhelming and the Dems that were not involved will have a choice to make - country or party. That will be a defining moment because all that choose party will become willing accomplices.
This post was edited on 12/21/19 at 8:18 am
Posted on 12/21/19 at 8:19 am to StrangeBrew
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The Dems pick ups in the House in 2018 were heavily aided by the Russia collusion hoax. If that crap was not perpetrated on the American people the Republicans might not have lost the House.
Agreed and I think they saw the writing on the wall. Presidents presiding over good economies are always reelected, and this is the best economy in my lifetime.
With Trump on the ticket republican turnout will surely give the republicans the house back. Scandals are their only hope and after the Russian collusion story fell apart, might as well roll the dice on another scandal. They knew when the Mueller report came out they lost the 2020 election and likely the house. Might as well give it a whirl and see what happens and if it backfires which it clearly did, nothing is really lost. At least they give Trump a "f you" as he takes more power away from them.
This post was edited on 12/21/19 at 8:21 am
Posted on 12/21/19 at 8:20 am to Lsujacket66
They thought she would be President, it’s not that they love Hillary, it’s that they knew the Dimocratic corruption could be uncovered by a President Trump. He had to go.
Posted on 12/21/19 at 8:28 am to Lsujacket66
They dont make mistakes. Same group of people managed to get a 1 term black senator with a moslem name elected president not once but twice. They have a plan.
Posted on 12/21/19 at 8:29 am to Lsujacket66
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Did Nancy and Schumer make a strategic mistake?
I believe so. The Dems ran on policy in the 2018 midterms. Those winning Dems in otherwise Trump districts worked hard to convince those voters that they would go to D.C. and better handle the biggie issues that had been so talked about.
So now they all must convince those same voters that what they've seen in this impeachment situation was of such momentous importance that it justified the abandonment of all the other stuff that they promised their voters.
Posted on 12/21/19 at 8:34 am to Shamwow
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This entire impeachment (and likely future second term impeachment) is to cover up the illegal spying on Trump’s campaign. This started as soon as Trump made it public that Obama spied on him.
This is correct. They know that DJT is savage and will not hesitate to put it all out in the open. They aren't trying to cover it up as much as lay the groundwork to attempt to discredit it (with the assistance of a fully compliant media). They will say that DJT feels threatened by impeachment, is lashing out based on desperation...basically the same way that they reacted when he first tweeted about "his wires".
If the parties were reversed then we would already be on the third wave of Hollywood movies and Frontline specials about illegal spying on political candidates. But under the current situation DJT has to have all evidence meticulously gathered and confirmed. And he is waiting for the best time to drop (pre-election) for maximum pain.
Posted on 12/21/19 at 8:38 am to Lsujacket66
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Did Nancy and Schumer make a strategic mistake
Nancy Pelosi is an exceedingly influential, crafty, powerful woman. She's a modern day Machiavelli, if not the modern day Delilah. Mistakes...are not part of her modus operandi.
Posted on 12/21/19 at 8:39 am to tarzana
That makes one of you who believe that in this particular situation. Looks as if she had a senior moment on this one.
Posted on 12/21/19 at 8:40 am to Lsujacket66
They lost a POTUS election that they feel should have been theirs, to a guy who’s heavily in favor of business over government - 180 degrees opposite of the socialist/marxist creep.
To have another Reagan situation come from this would be unacceptable to them, so they’re doing everything possible to prevent that. Unfortunately for them, their attacks have been obvious and transparent to most voters, even with smoke screens provided by the propaganda MSM.
To have another Reagan situation come from this would be unacceptable to them, so they’re doing everything possible to prevent that. Unfortunately for them, their attacks have been obvious and transparent to most voters, even with smoke screens provided by the propaganda MSM.
This post was edited on 12/21/19 at 8:43 am
Posted on 12/21/19 at 8:41 am to Lsujacket66
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Is it the Dem base that just wouldn’t allow them to work together, politics of winning in 20, or just personal animus that made them go this route?
Neither one is the primary reason. The primary reason is that Trump came from outside the system, and nobody from outside the system was ever supposed to get elected President. 2016 was supposed to be a choice between Establishment hacks Jeb Bush and Hillary Clinton, but Republican (conservative) voters finally woke up just enough to upset the apple cart. Some Dem voters woke up in a slightly different way, but Hillary and the DNC made sure that the insurgent candidacy of Bernie Sanders would not be successful.
It isn't just Dems. Even though they have to be much more subtle about it, Republican bought-and-paid-for Establishment hacks like Paul Ryan have been against Trump, too. Ryan lied thru his teeth and told Trump that he ((Ryan) would get funding for the wall in the next budget if Trump would just sign a current budget deal, but Ryan stabbed Trump in the back on that.
Posted on 12/21/19 at 8:43 am to tarzana
The cuck of the year award has a new front runner. Holy crap.
Even toddy left your freak show party.
Even toddy left your freak show party.
Posted on 12/21/19 at 8:47 am to Tiger Roux
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Nancy did it to keep her power.
I think this is still going on. I really think the impeachment thing is just a bone thrown to the left wing base and they really dont care what the Senate does with it. Right now they are just milking it for max media value and campaign strategy (hurt Trump)
Posted on 12/21/19 at 8:49 am to Shamwow
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This entire impeachment (and likely future second term impeachment) is to cover up the illegal spying on Trump’s campaign.
They want to be able to say any upcoming indictments are merely retribution by Barr/Durham for impeachment.
This post was edited on 12/21/19 at 10:07 am
Posted on 12/21/19 at 8:53 am to Lsujacket66
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Did Nancy and Schumer make a strategic mistak
Their parents did.
Posted on 12/21/19 at 9:17 am to UncleD7734
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They dont make mistakes. Same group of people managed to get a 1 term black senator with a moslem name elected president not once but twice.
Au contraire my friend. The Dems made the biggest boondoggle in their political history by electing the black man first with the intention of electing the first woman second. They got it exactly backwards. If they had had the patience there's no doubt they would have gotten 16 years of continuous rule in the Oval Office. The black man should have never provoked the business man at that dinner.
The rest is history.
Posted on 12/21/19 at 9:27 am to Lsujacket66
This is something that republicans should use in their ads for 2020. List all the things they were done like tax cut when republicans where in power in the house then list what democrats have done with the house. They can even impeach the president when they have the votes.
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