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re: Dianne Feinstein, 90, cedes POA to daughter but still serves in Congress
Posted on 8/4/23 at 11:57 am to Mickey Goldmill
Posted on 8/4/23 at 11:57 am to Mickey Goldmill
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The OP and many in this thread appear to believe that executing a POA is indicative of losing your mental acuity. Hank simply points out that is not necessarily the case. He is then attacked for "defending" Feinstein. IF some of y'all could simply set aside your emotions for a second and carry on a pointed discussion on a specific topic, you'd see the disconnect.
The disconnect is that Feinstein is obviously utterly incapable of coherent thought, so the point Hanky was trying so hard to make is superfluous, and irrelevant to the discussion being had. The disconnect is that Feinstein is incapable of handling her own business, but she is ostensibly still handling the business of the people of the United States. The disconnect is Hanky and you apparently want to have a discussion about irrelevant shite, instead of talking about mentally deficient geriatrics running the country.
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Posted on 8/4/23 at 12:00 pm to troyt37
quote:I enjoy discussion and debate. I do wish that my opponents here were occasionally able to provide factual bases or even rational arguments in support of their positions.
I guess we shouldn’t have discussions and debates around here, we should just endeavor to ascertain the opinion of the one poster who is always correct, every time.
Trying to get the delusional to see reality can be challenging.
Posted on 8/4/23 at 12:02 pm to roadGator
quote:Physically, she is clearly unable to care for herself.
In Feinstein’s case, which would you bet on? Able or unable to take care of her own life any longer?
Mentally, she is clearly in decline, but she does NOT appear to have yet reached NCM.
Her constituents elected her with full knowledge of her age and declining faculties.
Should she step down? Probably. But not because she executed a limited-scope PoA to let her daughter manage some litigation on her behalf.
This post was edited on 8/4/23 at 12:04 pm
Posted on 8/4/23 at 12:02 pm to Mickey Goldmill
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The OP and many in this thread appear to believe that executing a POA is indicative of losing your mental acuity. Hank simply points out that is not necessarily the case.
Theres actual evidence that Feinstein has lost her faculties, so in think that opinion is worthless in context.
Shes lost it. There is no doubt.
Posted on 8/4/23 at 12:05 pm to troyt37
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The disconnect is that Feinstein is obviously utterly incapable of coherent thought, so the point Hanky was trying so hard to make is superfluous, and irrelevant to the discussion being had. The disconnect is that Feinstein is incapable of handling her own business, but she is ostensibly still handling the business of the people of the United States. The disconnect is Hanky and you apparently want to have a discussion about irrelevant shite, instead of talking about mentally deficient geriatrics running the country.
Sigh...again, the OP tries to make a point that the simple act of executing a POA to her daughter means she can't handle her business in congress. That is what the thread is about. That is what Hank and I have been discussing. If you want to discuss all the examples of why she shouldn't be serving in congress anymore, go right ahead, but that is not consistent with the specific topic started in the OP.
Posted on 8/4/23 at 12:05 pm to EKG
quote:Agreed.
We have a (non-partisan) problem in this country with unfit, aged politicians serving past their optimal time in government.
But isn't it a "voter problem?" The voters keep sending them back to office.
Posted on 8/4/23 at 12:07 pm to Mickey Goldmill
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she can't handle her business in congress. That is what the thread is about.
Regardless of POA, she's imbecilic.
Posted on 8/4/23 at 12:08 pm to troyt37
Troy, my partisan and argumentative little friend, the OP consists ENTIRELY of quotes from an article written on the premise that the mere execution of a PoA renders DiFi incapable of serving in Congress.
Had the OP wanted to discuss the broader question you present, he could have done so.
He didn't.
Had the OP wanted to discuss the broader question you present, he could have done so.
He didn't.
Posted on 8/4/23 at 12:10 pm to Mickey Goldmill
quote:AND a broader topic on which both you and I appear to largely be in agreement with little Troy.
the OP tries to make a point that the simple act of executing a POA to her daughter means she can't handle her business in congress. That is what the thread is about. That is what Hank and I have been discussing. If you want to discuss all the examples of why she shouldn't be serving in congress anymore, go right ahead, but that is not consistent with the specific topic started in the OP.
Troy and Roger both have difficulty focusing upon the topic at hand.
This post was edited on 8/4/23 at 12:12 pm
Posted on 8/4/23 at 12:14 pm to troyt37
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The disconnect is that Feinstein is obviously utterly incapable of coherent though
Correct.
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"It's really up to her family and her colleagues and up to the constituents that she represents… She's 90 years old. She represents 39 million people in the state of California. She's been in the Senate for 30-plus years. And the other day she could not figure out a simple process that they were on the floor doing a roll call vote."
LINK
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Feinstein, who has represented California for over 30 years, announced earlier this year that she would not seek re-election in 2024. Several longtime colleagues have leaked to the press that her mental acuity has significantly declined.
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Feinstein relies on staffers to push her wheelchair, remind her how and when she should vote and explain what is happening when she becomes confused, according to a New York Times report earlier this year.
There is no way she can handle the basics of her job.
Posted on 8/4/23 at 12:15 pm to AggieHank86
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Troy and Roger both have difficulty focusing upon the topic at hand.
No, youre perpetually hung up on legalism, and most of the time no one else gives a frick.
Without some legal framework, you cannot punch your way out of a wet paper bag.
Posted on 8/4/23 at 12:17 pm to thermal9221
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She’s an elected official that had to give up powers for herself.
She has to vote and make decisions for a population. Yet she can’t be trusted to do some things for her own good.
Think about that jfc.
More and more frequently, Hank shits and steps back in it... Barefooted.
He's a da
This post was edited on 8/4/23 at 12:29 pm
Posted on 8/4/23 at 12:18 pm to AggieHank86
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But isn't it a "voter problem?" The voters keep sending them back to office.
It's an interesting issue for US Senators in particular due to their long terms compared to most other positions in public office. Once you get up there into your 70s and 80s, you could be perfectly fine and then fall off a cliff fast.
This was her in 2017 when running for reelection at the age of 84:
Posted on 8/4/23 at 12:23 pm to Mickey Goldmill
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This was her in 2017 when running for reelection at the age of 84:
Lipstick on a pig.
She's not capable of making her own decisions. I think thats pretty obvious.
Posted on 8/4/23 at 12:25 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Roger...neither Hank nor I are arguing with you on her mental state. At ease. 
Posted on 8/4/23 at 12:26 pm to troyt37
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but she is ostensibly still handling the business of the people of the United States. The disconnect is Hanky and you apparently want to have a discussion about irrelevant shite, instead of talking about mentally deficient geriatrics running the country.
Theyre hung up on legalism. They cannot discuss opinion.
This post was edited on 8/4/23 at 12:27 pm
Posted on 8/4/23 at 12:26 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:JFC, not even REMOTELY the point he was making.quote:Lipstick on a pig. She's not capable of making her own decisions. I think thats pretty obvious
This was her in 2017 when running for reelection at the age of 84:
Posted on 8/4/23 at 12:27 pm to Mickey Goldmill
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Sigh...again, the OP tries to make a point that the simple act of executing a POA to her daughter means she can't handle her business in congress.
I get that bitchy little "sigh" out of Hankabitch pretty often. has anyone ever seen Hanky and Mickey is the same place?
Given the fact that there is more than ample evidence That Feinstein is in fact incapable of handling her own, or anyone else's business, isn't that precisely what the POA means? I mean, it would be one thing if the old battleaxe was 60 years old and demonstrated daily that she wasn't batshit crazy, but she is 90 years old and demonstrates daily that if someone didn't put toilet paper in her hand, she would wipe her arse with her hand.
Posted on 8/4/23 at 12:27 pm to Mickey Goldmill
Valid point on the 6-year term. My own grandfather went from "sharp as a tack" to drooling and "unable to speak or feed himself" in a shorter time.
Posted on 8/4/23 at 12:28 pm to AggieHank86
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JFC, not even REMOTELY the point he was making.
I didn't say a word about what point he was making dufus.
Shes been a wreck for 15 years, and theyre all covering for her.
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