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re: Despair Settles into the Never Trump World
Posted on 1/23/24 at 1:14 pm to Salvitro787
Posted on 1/23/24 at 1:14 pm to Salvitro787
Ok, Roger.... 
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Posted on 1/23/24 at 1:14 pm to Salvitro787
BTW, your tendency to over-edit is a "tell"....work on it.
Posted on 1/23/24 at 1:14 pm to TigerAxeOK
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How so? Why worry about the enthusiasm of people who will only vote for Biden in the GE?
Those who won't vote for Trump won't allow themselves to be brought on board anyway. Better they feel unenthusiastic and sit at home than to turn out in numbers for Biden/Newsom.
Exactly. I'm not sure the general public will have the same level of enthusiasm to vote against trump like they did in 2020. Most just seem apathetic to politics in general now.
Posted on 1/23/24 at 1:15 pm to WPBTiger
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We found the latest alter/bot.
yep, thats got to be mmdr or jon hamm for sure
Posted on 1/23/24 at 1:16 pm to oogabooga68
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That dream future is simply a parade of supposed Conservatives bending over to take it up the arse from the Left.
"We didn't capitulate until after we sent them a strongly worded letter. What else can you expect from a political party that has the majority?"
Posted on 1/23/24 at 1:16 pm to WPBTiger
I’ll ask a question I’ve asked before of those who consider themselves among this “appalled band of conservatives”:
In all the years since Ronald Reagan bid farewell, help me better understand what lasting conservative victories, values and achievements have been earned on behalf of America and American citizens?
Approximately 35 years is a long sample size so surely there’s (at the very least) a couple of examples I can be reminded of.
Granted, Trump is not a dyed in the wool conservative. He’s a populist with some conservative aspects and some liberal ones.
But what exactly have conservatives done? It’s not like they haven’t had chance after chance in these recent decades.
I think it’s a very fair question.
In all the years since Ronald Reagan bid farewell, help me better understand what lasting conservative victories, values and achievements have been earned on behalf of America and American citizens?
Approximately 35 years is a long sample size so surely there’s (at the very least) a couple of examples I can be reminded of.
Granted, Trump is not a dyed in the wool conservative. He’s a populist with some conservative aspects and some liberal ones.
But what exactly have conservatives done? It’s not like they haven’t had chance after chance in these recent decades.
I think it’s a very fair question.
Posted on 1/23/24 at 1:16 pm to Mickey Goldmill
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I'm not sure the general public will have the same level of enthusiasm to vote against trump like they did in 2020.
Could it have something to do with the fact that the Democrats have run the country into the fking ground and the specter of another Trump Presidency isn't really scary in the least, provide of course you aren't an insane, Liberal cat lady?
This post was edited on 1/23/24 at 1:17 pm
Posted on 1/23/24 at 1:18 pm to Mickey Goldmill
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Exactly. I'm not sure the general public will have the same level of enthusiasm to vote against trump like they did in 2020. Most just seem apathetic to politics in general now.
Until virtue points can be redeemed in some sort of fashion that helps offset inflation, more and more moderates are going to abandon disastrous progressive policies.
Posted on 1/23/24 at 1:18 pm to Salvitro787
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Anyone who still thinks voting matters is a Tory and the enemy in my book. I want a new nation. I’m not interested in voting for the next criminal scumbag to sit on the iron throne or the professional wrestling programming that precedes it
Mexico might be accepting new residents since all of theirs seem to be coming here!
Posted on 1/23/24 at 1:18 pm to Salvitro787
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I am unalterably opposed to Trump. I will never support him as the lesser of evils. The kind of evil Donald Trump put on us in 2020 far surpasses any evil I’ve seen from any president in my lifetime. Even worse than bush and the patriot act which I never thought was possible
Evil? You have a very shallow definition of evil, also a very selective application. The lengths to which these Marxist presently in power have gone trying to "get Trump" are evil. The way they have weaponized the federal government against all who oppose them, making a mockery of our justice system is evil. They are destroying this country.
Posted on 1/23/24 at 1:18 pm to WPBTiger
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It’s a scenario that leaves the band of conservatives opposed to him appalled — and deeply pessimistic about the future of the party.”
Its no longer their party and people simply won’t go back to the status quo.
This post was edited on 1/23/24 at 1:20 pm
Posted on 1/23/24 at 1:18 pm to Salvitro787
Jesuzy, dude, are you having a fking stroke?
Posted on 1/23/24 at 1:18 pm to TigerAxeOK
I think they may refer to those that will hold their nose and vote for him as never trump too.
Posted on 1/23/24 at 1:19 pm to WPBTiger
Good. Maybe they'll seriously consider leaving the country.
Posted on 1/23/24 at 1:20 pm to Azkiger
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Until virtue points can be redeemed in some sort of fashion that helps offset inflation, more and more moderates are going to abandon disastrous progressive policies.
I don't believe moderates are going to make a big swing to trump, I think they will just stay home.
Posted on 1/23/24 at 1:21 pm to oogabooga68
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Please post more. With each "submit" from you, you expose how fking stupid you are.
If it was a Democratic President, you would’ve lost your mind. (And should have.)
If a Democratic President allowed churches to be shut down. For trillions of dollars in Federal spending to go to the usual suspects. For schools to be shut down. For businesses to be shut down. For people to have their liberties impinged upon because they wouldn’t wear a mask (that did nothing against the virus). You can continue that list a bit.
There’s no getting around his abysmal performance in stemming the tide of FedGov destroying the fabric of our lives.
Posted on 1/23/24 at 1:21 pm to Salvitro787
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I’m as conservative as the day is long.
Do you want to tax the rich?
Posted on 1/23/24 at 1:23 pm to 850SaintsGator
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was it Nikki Haley who didn’t order J6 security?
He offered National guard and was rejected by Pelosi. Your beef is with her.
Posted on 1/23/24 at 1:25 pm to BBONDS25
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He offered National guard and was rejected by Pelosi. Your beef is with her.
Naw man…there is a video circulating where Trump was blaming Nikki…clearly he meant Pelosi but with his age associated mental decline, he kept saying Nikki’s name
Posted on 1/23/24 at 1:25 pm to BBONDS25
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Do you want to tax the rich?
I think there’s some merit to the idea. Especially given how the Uber Wealthy seem bent on using their fortunes to destroy our country.
And to be clear, the wealthy are already taxed very progressively here. So it wouldn’t be inventing the wheel.
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