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re: DeSantis: Trump must ‘step up’ and appear at primary debates, not ‘entitled’ to nomination
Posted on 7/14/23 at 12:10 pm to MAADFACTS
Posted on 7/14/23 at 12:10 pm to MAADFACTS
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That isn’t to say that DeSantis didn’t do anything for the support.
Correct. So, the point of contention is whether he can spread that beyond Florida. I believe that he can, and he has about six months to demonstrate that.
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100% agree. That’s why it’s going to be an absolutely awful election season again. It’s been fun arguing with you, but I think knowing how gross the next year is going to be, maybe we should call a truce for the time being
Depends how much you like arguing, I guess. I've found that it's quite enjoyable if you alter your approach based on who you're arguing with. My responses to you could've been wildly different if you were another poster.
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Posted on 7/14/23 at 12:14 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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Correct. So, the point of contention is whether he can spread that beyond Florida. I believe that he can, and he has about six months to demonstrate that.
I can 100% agree with that
Posted on 7/14/23 at 12:27 pm to Adam Banks
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I highly doubt it in that scenario but we will see. After Iowa Scott, pence and Haley drop out and that vote consolidates to Ron. Combine that with an angry Trump at the first post Iowa debate and likely claiming fraud ala Cruz Iowa win and he’s going to turn a lot more people off
Posted on 7/14/23 at 1:04 pm to rmnldr
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DeSantis: Trump must ‘step up’ and appear at primary debates
DeSantis sounds desperate. Now hes trying to tell Trump how to run his own campaign. All the things the GOPe told him would happen, hasnt. Lulz
1) Huge announcement bump. NOPE
2) Evangelicals will leave Trump because of your groomer/abortion stances. Nah
3) Indictments will weaken Trump. LoL
4) A strong ground game will undercut his rallies. Except Rons pissed off the locals
5) Casey brings a lot to the table. uh, Jill Biden 2.0
6) And the latest, youll get him at the debates.
Posted on 7/14/23 at 1:23 pm to moneyg
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Every debate or Town hall Trumo has been involved in has been an unfair attack
Let’s not pretend he’s walking away from an honest debate.
Posted on 7/14/23 at 1:52 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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the point of contention is whether he can spread that beyond Florida. I believe that he can, and he has about six months to demonstrate that.
Posted on 7/14/23 at 8:09 pm to RazorBroncs
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Despite what y'all seem to feel inside, Trump is not the president and lost his last "heavyweight bout". He is not the incumbent with a stellar track record of success that speaks for itself.
Maybe if he was, THEN I'd be cool with him skipping the debates. But as it stands, he did not win his last prize fight and desperately needs to pick up new supporters with every chance he has.
Once again his hardcore supporters are only concerned about the primary and not the general. I know you think that since the Biden admin has been such a shitshow failure that Trump barely needs to put in any effort to look great by comparison - that is NOT how it works.
Trump has to work his nuts off to gain more votes from independents, moderates, women, etc that voted against him in 2020. He's done nothing to rein those votes in, and he needs every opportunity put forth to get them in the fold.
This thread has made it completely obvious that his hardcore base is only concerned with "owning the Desantis people" in the primary and nothing else. The general is what fricking matters, but you all are too dense or too entrenched to care.
Best post I've seen yet that explains the state of this board as well as voters in general
Posted on 7/14/23 at 8:10 pm to RazorBroncs
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Despite what y'all seem to feel inside, Trump is not the president and lost his last "heavyweight bout". He is not the incumbent with a stellar track record of success that speaks for itself. Maybe if he was, THEN I'd be cool with him skipping the debates. But as it stands, he did not win his last prize fight and desperately needs to pick up new supporters with every chance he has. Once again his hardcore supporters are only concerned about the primary and not the general. I know you think that since the Biden admin has been such a shitshow failure that Trump barely needs to put in any effort to look great by comparison - that is NOT how it works. Trump has to work his nuts off to gain more votes from independents, moderates, women, etc that voted against him in 2020. He's done nothing to rein those votes in, and he needs every opportunity put forth to get them in the fold. This thread has made it completely obvious that his hardcore base is only concerned with "owning the Desantis people" in the primary and nothing else. The general is what fricking matters, but you all are too dense or too entrenched to care.
Posted on 7/14/23 at 9:07 pm to rmnldr
Your man left baseball practice early, paid for by taxpayers. You can't be LSU
Posted on 7/14/23 at 10:17 pm to rmnldr
When you are the leading candidate by a mile you can do what the hell you want.
Posted on 7/14/23 at 10:22 pm to LSUvet72
Robot Ron should drop out now and get behind Trumpism before the foreigner Murdoch unloads him and damages him for the future.
Posted on 7/14/23 at 10:37 pm to LSUvet72
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When you are the leading candidate by a mile you can do what the hell you want.
Maybe. Trump saw people beat his arse from their basements in 2020 and 2022, so it makes some sense that he's adopted the strategy.
It'll be interesting to see if leading from the basement works on "Republicans" like it works on Democrats.
Posted on 7/14/23 at 10:39 pm to LSUvet72
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When you are the leading candidate by a mile you can do what the hell you want.
If Trump is crushing Ron so bad then he shouldn't have any problem crushing him on the debate stage too right?
Posted on 7/14/23 at 10:40 pm to RobbBobb
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DeSantis sounds desperate.
Hilarious, coming from someone begging him to drop out.
Posted on 7/14/23 at 10:42 pm to 14&Counting
The prevailing sentiment among Desantis supporters seems to be that Trump choosing not to appear on the debate stage would be a significant boost for RD, or put another way, a negative for Trump. If that’s the belief, then why do any of y’all care that DT might choose not to attend??
Posted on 7/14/23 at 10:46 pm to davyjones
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If that’s the belief, then why do any of y’all care that DT might choose not to attend??
We want Ali-Frazier.....not the undercard
And Ron is entirely correct: Trump isn't entitled to the nomination and the people deserve to hear the candidates debate the issues.
Posted on 7/14/23 at 10:52 pm to 14&Counting
I don’t think Trump’s entitled to the nomination, nor do I think he even does himself. Although it’s all mere speculation at this point, and Trump may have every intention of participating in all debates, despite the frenzied rhetoric to the contrary, but if he chose otherwise, I think it’s equally as or IMO more reasonable to conclude that it’s strategic as opposed to simply laying back and being “entitled.”
Posted on 7/14/23 at 10:54 pm to davyjones
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I think it’s equally as or IMO more reasonable to conclude that it’s strategic as opposed to simply laying back and being “entitled.”
if by strategic you mean he is dodging Ron and Vivek because he knows they can take a piece out of his hide
Posted on 7/14/23 at 10:58 pm to davyjones
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I think it’s equally as or IMO more reasonable to conclude that it’s strategic
Kind of flies in the face of the "Trump is standing in their way" narrative...
Posted on 7/14/23 at 11:09 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
How so?
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