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re: DeSantis promises to relocate Dept of Agriculture to Iowa
Posted on 12/3/23 at 12:26 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
Posted on 12/3/23 at 12:26 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
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USDA should be abolished, not moved.
They do a lot of good stuff - but like every other department, it’s bloated and endlessly expands its mission.
This post was edited on 12/3/23 at 12:28 pm
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Posted on 12/3/23 at 2:32 pm to aggressor
Good idea, decentralize
Posted on 12/3/23 at 5:47 pm to aggressor
If Bootsy doesn't win the Iowa caucus after that promise he's done in big league politics. 
Posted on 12/3/23 at 6:44 pm to aggressor
While I like the idea of moving these departments out of D.C., Iowa??
Pandering to that state is one of the reasons we have to anti-consumer, idiotic ethanol in gasoline mandate.
Give me a GOP candidate who is willing to publicly state an intention to end that mandate, and that will be my first choice for 2024.
Pandering to that state is one of the reasons we have to anti-consumer, idiotic ethanol in gasoline mandate.
Give me a GOP candidate who is willing to publicly state an intention to end that mandate, and that will be my first choice for 2024.
Posted on 12/3/23 at 7:12 pm to aggressor
He can say the same thing when he runs again in 2028.
Posted on 12/3/23 at 7:59 pm to stout
By moving the Dept outside of DC, it allows DeSantis to fire employees that don't want to move. That's the rationale for doing it.
Posted on 12/3/23 at 10:21 pm to DMAN1968
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He can say the same thing when he runs again in 2028.
Nah, he can get it done in his first term.
Posted on 12/3/23 at 10:24 pm to stout
Ok
Posted on 12/4/23 at 6:49 am to aggressor
Remember when Ross Perot used to make the point that the USDA had more employees than there were farmers?
Posted on 12/4/23 at 9:35 am to aggressor
US gov needs to move to a new federal district with no congressional reps created around Lebanon Kansas, geographic center of contiguous 48 states.
Posted on 12/4/23 at 9:37 am to BobBoucher
The Forest Service is part of the USDA.
Posted on 12/4/23 at 9:42 am to Elblancodiablo
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Tough to break that mafia up if DoA moves to iowa
It will get worse as special interest will be pushed more since Judy's cousin owns a farm and Judy is head of whatever department so she will push for regulations that hurt the consumer even more.
Move it out of DC but don't move it to where the people who benefit from it most will be running it and pushing self-serving agendas while screwing the consumer with more crony capitalism the USDA specializes in. It defeats the purpose of moving it if that is the end result.
Posted on 12/4/23 at 9:52 am to stout
It needs to be moved where people actually care about agriculture. DC's idea of agriculture is insect production as a food source.
Posted on 12/4/23 at 9:55 am to El Segundo Guy
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It needs to be moved where people actually care about agriculture
I am against it going to IA or the Midwest simply based on how much they have lobbied to cram ethanol down our throats
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The top 15 states with the most total farm subsidies distributed from 1995 to 2021, ranked by payments, were:
Texas ($44.5 billion)
Iowa ($39. 6 billion)
Illinois ($32.7 billion)
Minnesota ($28.1 billion)
Kansas ($27.7 billion)
Nebraska ($27 billion)
North Dakota ($26.6 billion)
South Dakota ($21 billion)
How much more do you think IA would subsidize themselves if they ran the USDA?
Posted on 12/4/23 at 9:58 am to El Segundo Guy
Ag has to be protected.
It already is at the local/state level by property tax and sales tax stuff. If someone can't hold on to their farm because the property taxes sky rocket, it goes up for sale.
More often than not that farmland is being bought by Chinese or it gets turned into a DR Horton subdivision.
It already is at the local/state level by property tax and sales tax stuff. If someone can't hold on to their farm because the property taxes sky rocket, it goes up for sale.
More often than not that farmland is being bought by Chinese or it gets turned into a DR Horton subdivision.
Posted on 12/4/23 at 9:59 am to aggressor
frick Iowa and their ethanol subsidies. 
Posted on 12/4/23 at 10:02 am to El Segundo Guy
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Ag has to be protected.
No other industry is as subsidized and protected as farming is.
I know many 3rd and 4th generation rice farmers here and from what I see you almost have to be a moron to lose a farm simply based off of the aid available to them. Maybe I am wrong but I grew up with a lot of them and they took over from their dad who took over from his, etc.
Posted on 12/4/23 at 10:05 am to stout
Oh, if you own thw land by having it passed down, you're golden. But that's the only way to make real money on ag.
Huge expenses in fuel, equipment and feed. I could grow my cattle operation, but to make it financially worthwhile, I would have to work my arse off. Now I have just enough cattle to keep it fun and ve able to file a Schedule F.
ETA--I know for certain that Chinese interests have purchased some ranches in Oklahoma. A developer funded by the Chinese just bought Fairfield Lake in Texas for development.
Huge expenses in fuel, equipment and feed. I could grow my cattle operation, but to make it financially worthwhile, I would have to work my arse off. Now I have just enough cattle to keep it fun and ve able to file a Schedule F.
ETA--I know for certain that Chinese interests have purchased some ranches in Oklahoma. A developer funded by the Chinese just bought Fairfield Lake in Texas for development.
This post was edited on 12/4/23 at 10:09 am
Posted on 12/4/23 at 10:07 am to stout
quote:Things may have changed in the past couple of decades, but I have a friend who’s father had to stop farming back in the 80’s after he lost his whole soybean crop to a hurricane and subsequent flooding. They didn’t own a lot of land and were sharecropping so that may have had something to do with it.
No other industry is as subsidized and protected as farming is.
To survive in farming, you have to own a lot of land and farm it yourself.
Posted on 12/4/23 at 10:09 am to El Segundo Guy
quote:Yep. You posted the exact same thing I said while I was typing it.
Oh, if you own thw land by having it passed down, you're golden. But that's the only way to make real money on ag.
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