re: Denver Votes to Legalize Psilocybin Mushrooms

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Yeah, I'm not a big fan of the prospect of having shroomed drivers on the roads.

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But you're a big fan of drunk or high on pot drivers?

I'm glad the country is finally moving towards MORE freedom and less government intervention.

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I'm all for adults doing what they want to do as long as it isn't hurting anyone else

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Then back the frick up. From someone who has no intention of eating shrooms. If it's legal to take wheat and barley to make an intoxicant, frick the government for trying to control it for monetary reasons. Focus on the opioid epidemic that the government created. But they have a hand in taxes on pharmaceuticals...

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Federal officials banned mushrooms

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shaking my fricking head

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But you're a big fan of drunk or high on pot drivers?

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Not as much. A guy can have a beer or two and still be okay to drive. Even if they're legally drunk, I like my chances better than a guy who just ate a quarter bag of shrooms. And unlike the guy who smoked a joint 3 hours ago and is basically just a bit lethargic, the guy on shrooms is still getting some INCREDIBLY distracting visual hallucinations.

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Never met a hallucinogen addict. Are those a thing?

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Like with marijuana, not addictive per se, but it is obvious it is habit forming in some folks. And it is usually the very last people who ought to be overindulging.

Again, the science is decent for even LSD to treat a number of mental health problems, in a controlled environment. If someone goes the other way with substance abuse (like Syd Barrett, the founder of Pink Floyd), the results can be catastrophic.

Now, that's true of alcohol or diet pills or a whole range of things. Hallucinogens has been particularly demonized by the government in the War on Drugs (tm) and I think they should be opened up to more research into the potential risks and benefits and not just locked away forever.

But, none of these powerful substances are truly safe for the uneducated or uninitiated. The one benefit to legalization is some regulation of strength and purity which is about all one can ask for.

Even MJ use, which has some demonstrated benefit (despite being inexplicably Schedule I) over many years, if abused chronically has a lot of negatives. Again, also true of legal things like booze and cigs. I'm just of the opinion that hallucinogens have special risks that sort of mandate a moderated, if not medically supervised, environment (at least for the uninitiated).

Psilocybin has shown improvement in people with suicidal thoughts, depression, anxiety, PTSD, alcoholism, OCD, and nicotine addiction.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6007659/

Microdosing has also shown to make people more creative, focused, and productive while enhancing mood and happiness. Brain scans have shown it helps different areas of the brain work in synchronicity. Users have reported a decrease in cluster headaches as well. A USF study has even shown that it has helped grow new brain cells in mice.

https://www.statnews.com/2018/08/23/science-testing-claimed-benefits-of-psilocybin-microdosing/

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To the astonishment and surprise of many, 80% of cancer patients showed major reductions in psychological stress, anxiety, and depression for up to seven months or longer after only one time of use. In addition to the remarkable healing benefits, no other significant side effects were documented. Meaning, there was no observable downside.

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https://entheonation.com/blog/microdosing-magic-mushrooms-health-benefits-psilocybin-mushrooms-microdoses/

The arguments being used to keep this illegal are the same arguments that can be used to outlaw any number of pharmaceuticals/drugs and physical devices that cause distractions or are just inaccurate descriptions of the drug's effects.

About 20% of auto accidents are caused by sleepiness and about 25% are caused by phone usage. Using accidents as a reason to keep something illegal is senseless.

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Lmao anyone would take 2 beer Jim driving, vs guy who ate so much mushrooms he probably couldn’t start the car. Awful comparison of quarter bag of Shrooms vs 2 beers. It’d be more like a dude driving after drinking a case of beer.

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Even if it's whatever you seem to think is equal (it's not), the visual hallucinations of mushrooms are far more distracting. And really,. I'd take case of beer guy over any substantial mushroom ingestor.

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Even MJ use, which has some demonstrated benefit (despite being inexplicably Schedule I) over many years, if abused chronically has a lot of negatives. Again, also true of legal things like booze and cigs. I'm just of the opinion that hallucinogens have special risks that sort of mandate a moderated, if not medically supervised, environment (at least for the uninitiated).

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You have a hard time convincing me with such an opinion.

I am of the opinion that there are much higher health and motor safety risks with alcohol being legal, compared to mushroom risks. Since alcohol poses such special risks the state should mandate supervised alcohol imbibing facilities to make sure you dont harm yourself or others.

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Even if it's whatever you seem to think is equal (it's not), the visual hallucinations of mushrooms are far more distracting. And really,. I'd take case of beer guy over any substantial mushroom ingestor.

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Lmao. In your world does licking a mushroom just blast you into cartoon land?

You can definitely take an equally intoxicating amount of any 2 substances. Moderation does exist in all substances. If you ate 1 small mushroom youre not getting ANY visuals let alone super distracting stuff. I’d take you 1 small mushroom guy vs guy who drank a case of beer.

Just because you can overdo it with 1 substance does not mean you should be thrown in jail for that substance. Any of these substances can be overdone. And I would be willing to bet so many more people are driving after a case of beer than a heavy visual trip amount of mushrooms legal or not. If safety is your reasoning, alcohol should be your target.