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re: Dems/Lefties: Honest Assessment:Who's On Your Bench w/Skillset to Challenge Vance in 2028?

Posted on 4/16/25 at 9:53 am to
Posted by KCT
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Posted on 4/16/25 at 9:53 am to
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Shapiro


Being Jewish, would the Democrat base even support Shapiro enough for him to win the Democrat nomination?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 4/16/25 at 9:55 am to


Silly MAGA memes aren't going to matter in a primary.

If the party picks Shapiro, he's going to win the primary unless Bernie runs and can hold it together (running on his economic platform that Trump is stealing, ironically). There aren't any legit far left options who can oust the party's chosen winner other than Bernie. AOC ain't it.
Posted by Tantal
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Posted on 4/16/25 at 10:02 am to
They'll nominate whoever goes in the hardest on trannies, abortion, and racism. Those are their litmus tests. I'm not sure if their hard left base will accept a moderate.
Posted by KCT
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Posted on 4/16/25 at 10:06 am to
No, DeSantis did not have to run in 2024. 2028 would've been much better for him as a successful 2-term Governor of Florida, although the emergence of Vance would have almost certainly made him an underdog. Yet, still a much better scenario than committing political suicide in 2024.

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Whitmer, Shapiro, Beshear, etc.


1) Whitmer - Did you see Gretchen in the White House with Trump last week? She looked like a scared puppy. At one point, she was even holding up some sort of folder to hide her face. Definitely not ready for prime time.

2) Shapiro - The Democrat base has a strong anti-Semitic contingent. Could he even win the nomination? He at least comes from a strategic state.

3) Beshear - I've wondered about him, but he's extremely low-profile. As of today, I'm not even sure I could pick him out of a police lineup. Plus, the Democrat Party is controlled by coastal elites. Are they going to support some guy from Kentucky?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 4/16/25 at 10:07 am to
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The Democrat base has a strong anti-Semitic contingent

Posted by KCT
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Posted on 4/16/25 at 10:10 am to
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They'll nominate whoever goes in the hardest on trannies, abortion, and racism. Those are their litmus tests. I'm not sure if their hard left base will accept a moderate.


Great answer. That's the Democrat Party's persona in a nutshell.
Posted by KCT
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Posted on 4/16/25 at 10:15 am to
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Silly MAGA memes aren't going to matter in a primary.


"Silly MAGA Memes" has nothing to do with the fact that a significant portion of the Democrat Party base is anti-Jewish. When Brandon made his obligatory "We stand with Israel" speech after 10/7, many in his own Administration, which was basically filled with pro-Obama types, were ready to crucify him.

Try to keep up with the actual reality of the situation.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 4/16/25 at 10:19 am to
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"Silly MAGA Memes" has nothing to do with the fact that a significant portion of the Democrat Party base is anti-Jewish

No it has everything to do with it because all you're doing is describing the meme that doesn't reflect reality

Now the Democrats are anti-Zionist for sure. They have a lot of problems with Israel the country and how it operates for sure. That's not anti-Semitism though.

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"We stand with Israel" speech after 10/7, many in his own Administration, which was basically filled with pro-Obama types, were ready to crucify him.

Yes because many of them are anti-israel and it's policies and actions. That has nothing to do with anti-semitism
Posted by RelicBatches86
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Posted on 4/16/25 at 10:20 am to
ironically, Biden was the establishment moderate in the 2020 Democrat primaries compared to he populist wing in Bernie and Elizabeth Warren and far left Kamala

Why he decided to co-opt the far left faction once he was in office, IDK
Posted by Deacon
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Posted on 4/16/25 at 10:21 am to
It seems like the most viable candidates will come out of a Governor's mansion, because they can sell that as a fresh voice and a new start.
Basically all the people already mentioned but I'd add Pritzker and Murphy as long shots, although Pritzker has NO chance but he'll run because ego.

Don't sleep on Newsome. I know a lot of people write him off but he has 2 years to whitewash his CA record.

I'd also add Wes Moore. Don't sleep on Wes Moore!!
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 4/16/25 at 10:23 am to
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Why he decided to co-opt the far left faction once he was in office, IDK


He was mentally compromised
Posted by KCT
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Posted on 4/16/25 at 10:29 am to
1) You are using semantics in an attempt to cover for the FACT that a lot of Democrats, especially young Democrats, are anti-Jewish. If it was just an "Israel thing" then why were Jewish students in colleges and universities being attacked all over the country?

2) 10/7 was an act of barbarism by a terrorist group. You're actually going to defend anybody who cheered for that and almost staged a mutiny at the White House because Brandon rightfully criticized a terrorist organization like Hamas?

Dude, you're obviously much farther to the Left than you will admit. I've known that forever, but maybe some others will see it now, too.
Posted by crazyLSUstudent
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Posted on 4/16/25 at 10:29 am to
Trump will run again in 2028.
Posted by KCT
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Posted on 4/16/25 at 10:32 am to
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"Silly MAGA Memes" 


Ad Hominem much?

Funny how much you mention this term, yet you engage in it as much as anybody.
Posted by KCT
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Posted on 4/16/25 at 10:35 am to
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ironically, Biden was the establishment moderate in the 2020 Democrat primaries compared to he populist wing in Bernie and Elizabeth Warren and far left Kamala

Why he decided to co-opt the far left faction once he was in office, IDK


Good point. Knowing Biden, he probably just wanted to collect his $$$ so he gladly went along with where the majority of hard-core Democrats are these days.
Posted by KCT
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Posted on 4/16/25 at 10:37 am to
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Trump will run again in 2028.


No.

PS - The world calls. Later.
This post was edited on 4/16/25 at 10:39 am
Posted by Sweep Da Leg
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Posted on 4/16/25 at 10:46 am to
Fix the elections to greatly reduce the fraud and none of the dems have a chance without another Great Depression like event
Posted by MizzouBS
Missouri
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Posted on 4/16/25 at 10:55 am to
Ticket with NC Governor Josh Stein and Penn Governor Josh Shapiro.

With North Carolina’s 16 electoral votes and Pennsylvania’s 19 electoral votes they would need 1 other state to flip Wisconsin, Georgia, Michigan, or Arizona to reach 270.

Stein on any ticket is the best thing for the Dems.
This post was edited on 4/16/25 at 10:58 am
Posted by Houag80
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Posted on 4/16/25 at 11:04 am to
They would have a chance if they chose Shapiro... but there's too much hate of the Jews in the lefty party.

Valero and Phillips 66 announced the closing of 2 refineries in California this morning. Newsome can't run from that shite....only chance for him, as Gaetz so aptly put it, is he will have to suck a lot of dicks.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 4/16/25 at 11:13 am to
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You are using semantics in an attempt to cover for the FACT that a lot of Democrats, especially young Democrats, are anti-Jewish.

No I"m pointing out the silliness and lack of facts/logic in this silly meme.

Speaking out against policies or acts of Israel the country, or being anti-Zionist, doesn't make one antisemitic.

Can you do those things and also be antisemitic? Yes, but that requires the antisemitism to be the antisemitism.

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10/7 was an act of barbarism by a terrorist group.

Sure. Not arguing that. I'm anti-Hamas in that conflict and I don't think "Palestine" exists.

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You're actually going to defend anybody who cheered for that and almost staged a mutiny at the White House because Brandon rightfully criticized a terrorist organization like Hamas?

Strawman alert



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