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Dems/Lefties: Honest Assessment:Who's On Your Bench w/Skillset to Challenge Vance in 2028?
Posted on 4/16/25 at 9:15 am
Posted on 4/16/25 at 9:15 am
Let's be honest. To begin with, J.D. Vance would obliterate the likes of Kamala Harrus, Tampon Timmy, AOC, Stephen A. (lol), etc.
Newsom has a terrible track record as Governor of California. Vance could have a field day with his record (the water situation, businesses leaving the state, radical comments by Newsom in the past, etc).
Whitmer isn't nearly as well-known as Newsom. She has a poor record as Governor of Michigan, and she looked like a scared puppy during a photo op with President Trump just a few days ago.
So the question is, who do you have waiting in the wings who could stand on the national stage with Vice-President Vance and not embarrass themselves?
PS - Don't give me goofy choices like Chelsea Hubbell. I want to know if you have one formidable candidate waiting in the wings?
Newsom has a terrible track record as Governor of California. Vance could have a field day with his record (the water situation, businesses leaving the state, radical comments by Newsom in the past, etc).
Whitmer isn't nearly as well-known as Newsom. She has a poor record as Governor of Michigan, and she looked like a scared puppy during a photo op with President Trump just a few days ago.
So the question is, who do you have waiting in the wings who could stand on the national stage with Vice-President Vance and not embarrass themselves?
PS - Don't give me goofy choices like Chelsea Hubbell. I want to know if you have one formidable candidate waiting in the wings?
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Posted on 4/16/25 at 9:18 am to KCT
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Newsom has a terrible track record as Governor of California. Vance could have a field day with his record (the water situation, businesses leaving the state, radical comments by Newsom in the past, etc).
Whitmer isn't nearly as well-known as Newsom. She has a poor record as Governor of Michigan, and she looked like a scared puppy during a photo op with President Trump just a few days ago.
None of these things matter to them. Whatever isn't associated with Trump will be who they vote for. If the economy isn't booming come '28, one of them will win as well.
Posted on 4/16/25 at 9:23 am to KCT
Dude, they legit voted for and defended a retarded pedophile who had no clue where he was half the time. They even defended him when his daughter's diary was released. They will vote for anything.
Posted on 4/16/25 at 9:25 am to KCT
The economy is going to be the biggest factor. If it's bad when the election rolls around, it's going to be hard for any GOP pol to win.
Posted on 4/16/25 at 9:28 am to KCT
Matt Gaetz has some interesting and funny insight......lol
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Yeah, you know we're living in crazy times when a left-wing California Governor just might be too "mainstream" for the dysfunctional Democrat Party. Dude took a trip to China for about a week in late 2023, and the first thing he said when he came back was something like "Very soon the state of California will have a system in place that will allow us to monitor every one of our citizens from cradle to grave." That doesn't sound too moderate to me.
But alas, the current Democrat Party probably sees him as a boring, stuffy, moderate old white colonizer.
Posted on 4/16/25 at 9:37 am to RolltidePA
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None of these things matter to them. Whatever isn't associated with Trump will be who they vote for. If the economy isn't booming come '28, one of them will win as well.
Pretty much this.
They just voted en masse for an individual who was widely considered to be the worst VP of all time - solely because she was opposing Donald Trump.
It will not matter who they run. The media will prop them up as the next messiah, all of their flaws will be conveniently forgotten, and they will find someone to accuse JD Vance of sexual assault.
Posted on 4/16/25 at 9:38 am to KCT
Newsome likely lost his shot, like how Desantis was fricked by fate.
Had Trump won in 2020, Newsome was looking like the guy for 2024. But since Trump lost, and then the DEMs were given another 4 years to go crazy adn moved too far left, they're much more likely to support a moderate DEM in the next cycle.
Bad economy + moderate DEM is the ticket for the DEMs in 2028.
Had Trump won in 2020, Newsome was looking like the guy for 2024. But since Trump lost, and then the DEMs were given another 4 years to go crazy adn moved too far left, they're much more likely to support a moderate DEM in the next cycle.
Bad economy + moderate DEM is the ticket for the DEMs in 2028.
Posted on 4/16/25 at 9:40 am to SlowFlowPro
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like how Desantis was fricked by fate.
Or because he called the main base listless vessels and wore heels
Posted on 4/16/25 at 9:41 am to momentoftruth87
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Or because he called the main base listless vessels and wore heels
That was flailing somewhat due to being fricked by fate.
He never had a real window. 2028 was never in the cards for him logically, which is why he had to try in 2024. He'll be old news by 2032.
Posted on 4/16/25 at 9:43 am to SlowFlowPro
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2028 was never in the cards for him logically, which is why he had to try in 2024
May be the dumbest thing you’ve said as all Ron had to do was keep quiet and he would’ve been the 2028 nominee
Posted on 4/16/25 at 9:43 am to KCT
JDs chances live and die on how well this administration goes, full stop.
It's early, but so far the Trump admin is taking on substantial water on every issue except maybe immigration but only being + single digits isn't ideal.
There's plenty of time to turn the ship around but if these trends continue it doesn't matter who's on stage against Vance, he'll get crushed. On the flip side, if things are going really well going into 28, the Dems might be DOA.
It's early, but so far the Trump admin is taking on substantial water on every issue except maybe immigration but only being + single digits isn't ideal.
There's plenty of time to turn the ship around but if these trends continue it doesn't matter who's on stage against Vance, he'll get crushed. On the flip side, if things are going really well going into 28, the Dems might be DOA.
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Posted on 4/16/25 at 9:43 am to KCT
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Honest Assessment:Who's On your Bench w/Skillset to Challenge in 2028?
None of them
I would like Hurd but seems big money will not get behind him. On the other side, nobody has a set of balls.
Both side need to clean house and start again, US citizens deserve better.
Posted on 4/16/25 at 9:44 am to momentoftruth87
Naw. There were always more MAGA-aligned people more popular with the NPCs. He isn't that guy, both in terms of mentality and intelligence.
Posted on 4/16/25 at 9:45 am to mwade91383
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It's early, but so far the Trump admin is taking on substantial water on every issue except maybe immigration
The irony is that Trump "sealing the border" will make immigration less of an issue in 2028, so his success now will hurt him later.
Immigration and the economy were his 2 big winning subjects in 2024, and if the GOP loses both they're hurt bigly.
Posted on 4/16/25 at 9:46 am to SlowFlowPro
I agree. But as of today the dims are rock solid woke in direction and tone with no signs of change. The measure will be the mid terms. If significant gains are made the wokism will continue and doom any perceived moderate. If big loses occur then a fight for change is likely to happen.
Posted on 4/16/25 at 9:47 am to goatmilker
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But as of today the dims are rock solid woke in direction and tone with no signs of change. The measure will be the mid terms. If significant gains are made the wokism will continue and doom any perceived moderate.
This only matters if the non-moderate/woke candidate can win the primary. Then they would be hurt, but I don't think anyone expects this right now.
Whitmer, Shapiro, Beshear, etc. are the people the DEM Party is likely to focus on over the next 2 years.
Posted on 4/16/25 at 9:47 am to SlowFlowPro
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KCT
Newsome likely lost his shot, like how Desantis was fricked by fate.
Not to hijack my own thread, but DeSantis screwed himself. He made a very unwise decision to run in the first place, and once in the race he didn't even perform well enough to separate himself from the likes of Nikki Haley and Chris Christie to become Trump's primary opponent.
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Bad econom
You're right about the economy. A good economy will boost the Republicans. A bad one will help the Democrats.
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moderate DEM
That gets back to the original question. Who is the moderate Democrat?
Posted on 4/16/25 at 9:49 am to KCT
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DeSantis screwed himself. He made a very unwise decision to run in the first place, and once in the race he didn't even perform well enough to separate himself from the likes of Nikki Haley and Chris Christie to become Trump's primary opponent.
The point (that went over your head even though it was clear and simple) was that he had to. 2024 was his only shot, even if it was a huge longshot.
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. Who is the moderate Democrat?
Whitmer, Shapiro, Beshear, etc.
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