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re: Dems confirm they will vote to remove McCarthy. Rs seem to have the 5 votes needed

Posted on 10/3/23 at 2:07 pm to
Posted by dcbl
Good guys wear white hats.
Member since Sep 2013
30997 posts
Posted on 10/3/23 at 2:07 pm to
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I’d guess their strategy is to seize the Speaker if the R’s splinter and cannot coalesce around a single nominee.
my guess is that they assume that a more conservative or “MAGA” speaker will give them something unpopular to run against next year…
Posted by Pax Regis
Alabama
Member since Sep 2007
14336 posts
Posted on 10/3/23 at 2:08 pm to
frick that guy. Good riddance.
Posted by SlimTigerSlap
Member since Apr 2022
4313 posts
Posted on 10/3/23 at 2:08 pm to
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I would rather someone fight and fail than continue to just ape the words.

Like allowing a toddler to help you paint the kitchen. At least they tried.
Posted by SlimTigerSlap
Member since Apr 2022
4313 posts
Posted on 10/3/23 at 2:09 pm to
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my guess is that they assume that a more conservative or “MAGA” speaker will give them something unpopular to run against next year…

Atrocious guess.
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
175723 posts
Posted on 10/3/23 at 2:10 pm to
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the Republican majority in the house look like a bunch of blithering fools


The Republicans do that well enough as is. The Dems don't need to help them.

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(not that Gaetz needs anyone's help in that when it comes to him).


Is he not RINO enough for you?

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They are going to use this speakership circus to their advantage when they try to retake the House next year.


Yea, no shite. So IYO we should just continue with weak leadership in hopes of retaining the house? What good does keeping the house do with someone like KM leading the way and no unity?

If KM retains the speakership I hope that this is a wake-up call for him to finally gets all Rs on the same page and get stuff done.

He can start by no longer blocking the subpoena of Hunter. I know that will be a dog and pony show but if the shoe were on the other foot it would have already happened.

This post was edited on 10/3/23 at 2:16 pm
Posted by Bard
Definitely NOT an admin
Member since Oct 2008
55534 posts
Posted on 10/3/23 at 2:16 pm to
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Like allowing a toddler to help you paint the kitchen. At least they tried.



Wrong. More like a firefighter going into a burning building to try to save a child.

Keep sitting back and accepting "business as usual" (like the suspended debt ceiling McCarthy "negotiated") since it's worked out so well thus far.
Posted by dcbl
Good guys wear white hats.
Member since Sep 2013
30997 posts
Posted on 10/3/23 at 2:16 pm to
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What good does keeping the house do with someone like KM leading the way and no unity?

It does absolutely nothing for us

This is a good move; Dems obviously think this helps them

I think they are wrong - just sucks that we need their help to get it done…
Posted by jatilen
Member since May 2020
13608 posts
Posted on 10/3/23 at 2:17 pm to
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MCCARTHY: “No. If five Republicans go with Democrats, then I'm out.”

REPORTER: “Sounds likely.”

MCCARTHY: “Probably so.”

Posted by BFIV
Virginia
Member since Apr 2012
8328 posts
Posted on 10/3/23 at 2:18 pm to
McCarthy should have kept his word. FAFO.
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
14319 posts
Posted on 10/3/23 at 2:19 pm to
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Let me know when they want to slash Social Security


For whom? The people who paid into SS all their lives? Their employers? What is your definition of slash? If it is privatizing SS, then I'm with you. If it's cutting the benefits of the people who have been stolen from for the last 40 years, there's nothing conservative about that. Not even libertarian. That money is their property.

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stop proposing welfare programs like tariffs.


Do we just shutter our manufacturing, or can our manufacturers compete just because you say so? When a country slaps US products with a tariff, raising the price of US goods in that country, what is a business suposed to do? Just find other customers?
Posted by BFIV
Virginia
Member since Apr 2012
8328 posts
Posted on 10/3/23 at 2:21 pm to
The good news is that, finally, someone in Congress is being held accountable for not keeping their word. That's a pleasant change.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
451566 posts
Posted on 10/3/23 at 2:23 pm to
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For whom?

Everyone.

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The people who paid into SS all their lives?

The people who paid a tax? Yes.

Do you make the same arguments for people who want to slash other tax-funded welfare programs?

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What is your definition of slash?

Take whatever is left in the fund and distribute by previous amounts paid. End the tax and spending.

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If it's cutting the benefits of the people who have been stolen from for the last 40 years, there's nothing conservative about that.

Yes, there is nothing conservative about eliminating welfare programs.

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Do we just shutter our manufacturing, or can our manufacturers compete just because you say so?

Manufacturing who can compete, will. We are the #1/2 manufacturing country on earth.

Posted by Classy Doge
Member since Nov 2021
4076 posts
Posted on 10/3/23 at 2:24 pm to
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The good news is that, finally, someone in Congress is being held accountable for not keeping their word. That's a pleasant change


RINO's gonna bail McCrapthy out.
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
14319 posts
Posted on 10/3/23 at 2:26 pm to
You just want to derail, because you are getting your arse handed to you. Feel free to start a thread about how many think SS is just another tax, and that they should not expect any of the money taken from their paychecks for 50 years back.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
451566 posts
Posted on 10/3/23 at 2:28 pm to
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You just want to derail,

He says after so many people attacked me with strawman arguments. Once I respond, it's an attempt to "derail"

Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
14319 posts
Posted on 10/3/23 at 2:41 pm to
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He says after so many people attacked me with strawman arguments. Once I respond, it's an attempt to "derail"



Start the thread, I'll jump right in. This thread is about a SOH who has continually capitulated to marxist democrats, failed to follow through on promises made to get the job, and how you apparently support these things.
Posted by Burt Orangello
DFW
Member since Sep 2023
638 posts
Posted on 10/3/23 at 2:47 pm to
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So the risk is we still get McCarthy, but with him being beholden to the Dems.



He'd only be beholden if he kept his word. Which is what's so ironic ... he would keep his agreement with Dems if they bailed him out, but he won't keep his agreement with Republicans who put him in there in the first place.
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