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re: Democrats Are Losing the Rust Belt Over This

Posted on 2/2/18 at 11:20 pm to
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
164082 posts
Posted on 2/2/18 at 11:20 pm to
Trump already won Ohio by 8 points in 2016

He might win by 15 in 2020.

Ohio is locked up. Gotta keep Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin.

I think Minnesota is definitely in reach.
Posted by Buckeye Backer
Columbus, Ohio
Member since Aug 2009
9235 posts
Posted on 2/2/18 at 11:24 pm to
One more interesting thing, my grandfather said something to me tonight that was kind of interesting...remember he's an old Korean War Vet, but he said ""at what point does "Against all enemies, foreign and domestic"" become a real thing? As a combat veteran of the Iraq War myself, when you're being sworn in, you repeat that line, but you never, ever really think about it being something you'd ever have to even remotely think about. Just food for thought.
Posted by Buckeye Backer
Columbus, Ohio
Member since Aug 2009
9235 posts
Posted on 2/2/18 at 11:29 pm to
I'm telling ya...the biggest shocker in 2020 will be Illinois going Red. Believe it!!! Why? Because Democrats think its impossible. High taxes, chiraq, people moving out in droves...Trump needs to go after democrat policies that are killing Illinois. I firmly believe that if Trump can win in Ohio, Michigan, Wisconsin, Iowa and Pennsylvania...he can get Illinois! What a win that would be
Posted by Codythetiger
Arkansas
Member since Nov 2006
27557 posts
Posted on 2/2/18 at 11:38 pm to
quote:

olddawg26



Holy shite, are you feeling alright? Kinda worried about you homie, I don't pick fights with you on here but I've seen you around plenty on here supporting libs.. what made you realize democrats were going in the wrong direction?

My mom was a democrat, not anymore though.
Posted by IllegalPete
Front Range
Member since Oct 2017
7182 posts
Posted on 2/2/18 at 11:39 pm to
Posted by Backinthe615
Member since Nov 2011
6871 posts
Posted on 2/2/18 at 11:43 pm to
I grew up a state away in WVa. Aside from unconditional union worship, I align closely with my hard-working Blue Dog folks.

Which by the current DNC’s leadership’s standard makes me a racist, fascist, nazi, gay-hating yokel.

Keep it up Dems.

Posted by SoulGlo
Shinin' Through
Member since Dec 2011
17248 posts
Posted on 2/2/18 at 11:43 pm to
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Upvote for this. Didn't read your post. Was too busy laughing.
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
Premium Member
Member since Jan 2005
70917 posts
Posted on 2/3/18 at 7:56 am to
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her response was to ignore it all (even going so far as to not campaign at all in WI and not hit MI until the last month because her team in Brooklyn knew better what was going on in those states than the people on the ground).


I understand that strategy, TBH.

You have a candidate with negative charisma and a gaffe-prone opponent. Safe thing is to play prevent defense.

I still think Obamacare was the tipping point. The three states she lost from the blue wall had double-digit premium increases and people get the letters in mid-October every year.
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
Premium Member
Member since Jan 2005
70917 posts
Posted on 2/3/18 at 8:05 am to
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It's kind of hard to contend you're the champion of blue collar workers and unions any longer when you're ardently advocating for illegal immigrant amnesty because "they will do the low skilled jobs Americans won't do."



It's not just open borders. The Democrats are all in on free trade, which is a change from the past. Free trade benefits both sides on the macro level but the costs are borne almost exclusively by blue collar workers, so they're the ones who lose on the deal.

Then Obama/Pelosi came in and threw trillions in bailouts and subsidies to fat cats. I didn't get any of those checks.

Last straw for me was when they became extreme social issue warriors. The only reason anyone questions the above policies is they're racist sexist homophobes.

And I say that as someone who doesn't care if Bruce Jenner became Caitlyn or two men want to get a piece of paper from the courthouse or someone wants to smoke a joint.
Posted by LSU Patrick
Member since Jan 2009
73472 posts
Posted on 2/3/18 at 8:11 am to
The Dems abandoned the Upper Midwest for illegal aliens. The gambled and lost. They are doubling and tripling down on the same losing hand now. I hope they keep it up, because Trump is turning this country around.
Posted by Gaspergou202
Metairie, LA
Member since Jun 2016
13494 posts
Posted on 2/3/18 at 8:12 am to
DNC cannot keep the lions away from the ponies and elephants out of the popcorn in their big circus tent.

They threw the industrial unionized workers out in favor of environmentalists, communist, and globalist.

Trump is waving his capitalist magic wand and bringing them into the GOP fold.

Who would have believed that these men were the future of the GOP?

And this was the future of the DNC?

Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
45991 posts
Posted on 2/3/18 at 8:15 am to
quote:

I come from a long line of Rust Belt, blue collar Democrats. This past election I voted for Donald Trump more than I voted for the Republican ticket. As of now, I couldn't be more supportive of Donald Trump. The best news is this, my father, two grandfathers and the biggest surprise of them all, my mother are ALL planning to vote for Trump in the next election...as of tonigh
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I come from a long line of Rust Belt, blue collar Democrats. This past election I voted for Donald Trump more than I voted for the Republican ticket. As of now, I couldn't be more supportive of Donald Trump. The best news is this, my father, two grandfathers and the biggest surprise of them all, my mother are ALL planning to vote for Trump in the next election...as of tonigh


There's a buncha of PTers over age 55 that came from the Dim party of 40 years ago, my DEMOCRAT party died decades ago. We're in a fight for the sovereignty of the country, most Americans don't want to be part of the Globalist/NWO scam...., frick the leftist who believe the US should emulate the European socialist model.
Posted by hawgfaninc
https://youtu.be/torc9P4-k5A
Member since Nov 2011
46368 posts
Posted on 2/3/18 at 8:15 am to
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29178 posts
Posted on 2/3/18 at 8:16 am to
It's amazing that Trump might have saved the Republican Party and destroyed the Democratic Party. It's incredible. After the Rust Belt, I think the most telling thing is the black male support DOUBLING. The core Democratic platform is identity politics. That doesn't work when people want jobs.
Posted by saints5021
Louisiana
Member since Jul 2010
17457 posts
Posted on 2/3/18 at 8:16 am to
Dems are focused on turning states like Texas blue, but are losing the heartland
Posted by Saint5446
Member since Jan 2014
823 posts
Posted on 2/3/18 at 8:18 am to
What size coat does the old baw need?
Posted by mofungoo
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2012
4583 posts
Posted on 2/3/18 at 8:18 am to
Yes, the Democrats are a disease that is infesting our country, and Trump is the cure.

MAGA
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
53091 posts
Posted on 2/3/18 at 8:19 am to
I had to attend a Hillary rally for work a couple of months before the election. The leadership may have been supporting Hillary, but the rank and file construction baws in that audience were all MAGA. As long as Trump doesn't come across as anti-union (which he shouldn't, because he is bringing jobs back to the U.S.), he should dominate the midwest.
Posted by 88Wildcat
Topeka, Ks
Member since Jul 2017
13926 posts
Posted on 2/3/18 at 10:36 am to
The power wing of the Democratic Party today thinks the U.S. is a f-ed up country. Racism, homophobia, Islamophobia, white privilege, microaggression, etc. They do not understand that the reason people from every f-ed up country in the world want to come here is that despite all the bitching, despite all the moaning, despite all the poo throwing and despite all the pissing contests Americans get involved with each other every day in this country it is still one of, if not the, least f-ed up country in the world and the majority of Americans will fight like hell to make sure it stays that way.
Posted by iluvlsusports
Somewhere in South Louisiana
Member since Aug 2006
3663 posts
Posted on 2/3/18 at 11:00 am to
We need to send the establishment Republicans to the Democrats and create the Patriot Party. The old Democrat Party could be the SJW Party.
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