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re: Delta aircrews names and experience levels

Posted on 2/19/25 at 8:51 am to
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
5431 posts
Posted on 2/19/25 at 8:51 am to
We don't have a functioning press.

It's obvious that the cause of the crash was gross pilot error. The rate of descent was WAY too fast leading to an extremely hard landing. I suspect that's what prompted the pilot who was holding short of the runway to take a video of the landing: "Hey Bill, Delta's coming in HOT!"

For a news agency with even modest resources, there are so many ways to have already figured out the identity of the pilots that I think there's something to cover up.

Delta's obsession with DEI MIGHT be the reason. Whatever the case, it's depressing how bad journalism is now.

Posted by angryslugs
Member since Apr 2008
10993 posts
Posted on 2/19/25 at 8:51 am to
quote:

The reason why I'm nervous about it is because if either one of the pilots happen to be a woman, queer, or a person of color, then the right is just going to start shouting DEl hire!" and then claim that particular pilots (or both) are 100% responsible for the crash.


This is exactly what would happen, and justifiably so. It highlights the problem of hiring people for any reason other than meritocracy.
Posted by keks tadpole
Yellow Leaf Creek
Member since Feb 2017
8208 posts
Posted on 2/19/25 at 8:51 am to
Captain William "Whip" Whitaker Sr. was not a DEI hire. Stay on target.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
108473 posts
Posted on 2/19/25 at 8:52 am to
Does the Coulter Rule apply to aircraft incidents?
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
172752 posts
Posted on 2/19/25 at 8:52 am to
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Does the Coulter Rule apply to aircraft incidents?


It did in DC
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
101885 posts
Posted on 2/19/25 at 8:53 am to
Well that is the downside of openly hiring and promoting unqualified people based off demographics… if something goes wrong, that gets the blame.


Seems the proper solution is to hire or promote on merit instead, but that’s just me.
Posted by prouddawg
Member since Sep 2024
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Posted on 2/19/25 at 8:54 am to

Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
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Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 2/19/25 at 8:54 am to
It may not matter. If the cause of the crash turns out to be a mechanical failure or wind shear the crew may have done nothing wrong.

I’ve seen the micro ADS-b data and the aircraft had a crazy change in airspeed right at the end. Not sure that’s been highlighted yet.

Posted by highcotton2
Alabama
Member since Feb 2010
10100 posts
Posted on 2/19/25 at 8:56 am to
All of the stories you are reading they are stressing how good a job the flight crew did getting everyone off safe. I have no doubt they did but from a person that was on the flight it seems the passengers were also doing their part to get everyone off safely. At least from quotes I read.

quote:

The flight attendants mostly helped to usher us off, but it was the passengers who did most of the work to secure everyone around them. There were two flight attendants doing everything they could, but with 80 of us, that's a big task. We never heard from the pilot that I remember. I heard that all flight crew was okay but I never saw them. The two flight attendants were with us in the aftermath, and they looked okay.


Passenger interview Buzzfeed
This post was edited on 2/19/25 at 8:57 am
Posted by oldskule
Down South
Member since Mar 2016
21852 posts
Posted on 2/19/25 at 8:56 am to
The video clearly showed that the plane hit the ground way too hard.....IMO.

Now that could have been windshear, we will see.
Posted by LordSaintly
Member since Dec 2005
40709 posts
Posted on 2/19/25 at 8:57 am to
Denzel saved that flight.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
42911 posts
Posted on 2/19/25 at 8:57 am to
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Why has this not been released?


Isn't it standard practice for the names of the crew to not be released until after the investigation is over?
Posted by SingleMalt1973
Member since Feb 2022
19514 posts
Posted on 2/19/25 at 8:59 am to
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fairly newly hired female pilot,


Posted by Johnpettigrew
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2017
1701 posts
Posted on 2/19/25 at 9:01 am to
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Captain William "Whip" Whitaker Sr. was not a DEI hire. Stay on target


My reference was not to DEI but the question of names and experience levels. Whip did put that bird upside down while high on cocaine and drunk on vodka. Maybe he is back flying?
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
5431 posts
Posted on 2/19/25 at 9:02 am to
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I’ve seen the micro ADS-b data and the aircraft had a crazy change in airspeed right at the end. Not sure that’s been highlighted yet.



That's part of what I'm talking about how bad our press is. Just watching the video, it's obvious how abnormal the approach was. Why doesn't CNN have an expert explain THAT?

We're watching the extinction of legacy media. I'm sure someone on a shoestring budget will adequately explain to us what happened.
Posted by Jack Daniel
Gold member
Member since Feb 2013
27589 posts
Posted on 2/19/25 at 9:02 am to
Here’s a thought… hire based on qualifications and not race or gender
Posted by CR4090
Member since Apr 2023
6785 posts
Posted on 2/19/25 at 9:03 am to
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
5431 posts
Posted on 2/19/25 at 9:05 am to
quote:

Isn't it standard practice for the names of the crew to not be released until after the investigation is over?


If so, why not state that to stop speculation? In the DC crash we knew the CRJ pilots' names almost immediately...and the investigation isn't over.

Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
54821 posts
Posted on 2/19/25 at 9:06 am to
You have your pitchforks out because a plane crashed and everyone survived?
Posted by Honest Tune
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2011
18208 posts
Posted on 2/19/25 at 9:06 am to
Nightmare fuel, that is the opposite of what I want in a pilot… a frickin’ robust social media influencer… holy hell.
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