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re: DEI: How can it be dismantled?
Posted on 1/9/24 at 12:09 pm to 4cubbies
Posted on 1/9/24 at 12:09 pm to 4cubbies
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I only post about things I'm informed about
Wrong.
You posted about systemic racism, a topic you clearly have no clue about.
You've been caught in a lie and your tone has suddenly changed.
You were feeling cocky earlier in the thread, insulting people .
I exposed you.
Keep flailing, you are looking more unhinged with each post.
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Posted on 1/9/24 at 12:09 pm to 4cubbies
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We need to be solutions-oriented
You cant have solutions until you understand the problem.
What things would you like to see to help get rid of "systematic racism?" What would help in your opinion?
Posted on 1/9/24 at 12:09 pm to oogabooga68
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You have been caught in a lie.
what lie? That I don't know what a gold-star rating is? I still don't know what that is.
I never said I've never posted on Reddit before. I just told you I went to the HIV subreddit 5 years ago to ask for advice about fostering my HIV+ student.
What did I lie about?
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Why should anyone believe anything you say from this point forward?
My feelings really won't be hurt if you never read another one of my posts again. In fact, that would really teach me a lesson. I think you should do it.
Posted on 1/9/24 at 12:11 pm to 4cubbies
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Our feelings really won't be hurt if you never post again. In fact, that would really teach us a lesson. I think you should do it.
Posted on 1/9/24 at 12:11 pm to 4cubbies
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What did I lie about?
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What is that? Can you link a single comment I’ve ever made about Reddit?
You lied about being a Redditor.
I found not only a single post, but a whole thread.
You are a liar.
You are a Liberal White Woman talking shite about things you are clueless about.
Go make me a fking sandwich.
Posted on 1/9/24 at 12:13 pm to roadGator
no one is forcing you to read my posts or respond to me.
y'all just can't help yourselves.
y'all just can't help yourselves.
Posted on 1/9/24 at 12:16 pm to 4cubbies
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When people say “systemic racism doesn’t exist,” there’s an implication that it has never existed.
No, they don't. Any group of people saying that are so small as to be inconsequential. When most people say "systemic racism doesn't exist", they mean just that: it does not exist currently and hasn't for a long time.
The problem you, and others of the same mindset, seem to have is not that you've glommed onto "racism" as your cause du jour but that in your zeal to fight this particular dragon you see it lurking behind every rock and tree. I imagine that zeal is often fed by those like Nikole Hannah-Jones or Ibram X. Kendi because they talk about how they see that dragon everywhere they look.
You can see anything you want out of anything you look at, if you want to see it badly enough. With that, there have always been (and will always be) the Hannah-Jones and Kendis of the world out there looking to reinforce that.
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It still exists today.
It doesn't. If it did you would be able to provide proof of it existing today. You haven't, instead relied on information taken completely out of chronological context to the point where you defeated your own argument.
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If I bring up the mass incarceration of black men, o can anticipate that our government-loving census here will presume that everyone arrested is guilty and dismiss that as evidence of modern systemic racism.
No, they will present you with the current data which shows blacks commit a widely disparate proportion of violent crimes. They will show you statistics going back decades which annually show things like blacks committing the majority of homicides in the country each year, that the largest amounts of violent crimes reported in every major and mid-sized US city are in poor, black neighborhoods, the absurdly high single-parent rate in the black community, etc.
Those are all far more directly impactful in understanding black incarceration than "systemic racism" as it shows why and how blacks have a larger population proportion of the prison system than in the general public. "Systemic racism" is the easy button for the intellectually lazy and purposely disingenuous as they get to lay blame on a generic group then get to feel good about "solving" the problem without having really done anything.
What you will see though, is only that blacks are being "mass incarcerated" when the truth is they aren't. (for those not clicking the link, 38.6% of federal inmates are black)
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Long ago? Tons of people alive and healthy today were victims of redlining.
Were. Redlining officially ended in 1968 when it was outlawed by the Fair Housing Act.
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What “extreme lengths” have I gone to by posting an example of systemic racism on a message board?
That it's on a message board is irrelevant. The context is the presentation, it doesn't matter the format. Within that context you have gone to the extreme of trying to present something which ended long ago as being actively practiced today in order to have a foundation for your stance. That attempt to either purposefully lie or perpetuate your ignorance as fact is an "extreme length" in attempting to create rhetorical ground for yourself where none exists.
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The only thing that’s been done to redress that is removing the discriminatory language from the policy manuals.
Yes, that's how you redress bad policy.
Posted on 1/9/24 at 12:19 pm to 4cubbies
quote:But cubbies, it’s coming straight from the mouth of a man in the most powerful position on planet earth.
We need to stop giving that sort of bs any attention
And it is beyond clear that it’s a carefully shaped and implemented strategy consuming every institution we have. And it’s gaining speed every day.
How do you ignore that?
quote:Girl we have to get you caught up on what’s going on out there
Maybe. I guess I'm not totally sure what is meant by DEI or how it positively or negatively impacts the general population. I came to the tread to post about systemic racism, so I haven't really touched the DEI aspect.
quote:See, you’re already catching on
An under-qualified plagiarist was the best Harvard could do?
quote:Shouldn’t it discredit the movement?
Harvard made her the face of DEI when she had no business being part of the conversation, really. But it definitely discredited the movement and makes people question the worthiness of other black women in academia who hold leadership positions.
Posted on 1/9/24 at 12:20 pm to Bard
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like Nikole Hannah-Jones or Ibram X. Kendi
Cubbies has no idea who these people are. Hell, she didn’t know who Robin DiAngelo was.
Further, after reading three or four quotes from the above people, she will declare them to be on the fringe of thinkers who talk and write about DEI.
She’s the poster child for brainwashed, white, progressive woman.
Posted on 1/9/24 at 12:22 pm to 4cubbies
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I came to the tread to post about systemic racism, so I haven't really touched the DEI aspect.
Unintentional hilarity ensues.
Posted on 1/9/24 at 12:27 pm to 4cubbies
Tell us more about your homeless person sex. How did that become a thing?
Did you at least bathe him first?
Did you at least bathe him first?
Posted on 1/9/24 at 12:27 pm to oogabooga68
quote:We were among the first countries in world history to outlaw slavery. Britain was the first. African countries didn't do it until well into the 20th century.
You see, this country has an incredible History of righting its wrongs, despite the fact we were late to the slavery game.
DEI is tokenism. It's very simple and logical. If your hiring standard is based on anything but merit, you'll have lesser results. Period.
Posted on 1/9/24 at 12:29 pm to oogabooga68
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You posted about systemic racism, a topic you clearly have no clue about.
Its one of those terms that marxists love but cant define.
Posted on 1/9/24 at 12:30 pm to the808bass
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Cubbies has no idea who these people are.
She admits to "living under a rock", yet feels the need to lecture people about their "ignorance".
You can't make this shite up.
Posted on 1/9/24 at 12:31 pm to blueboy
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We were among the first countries in world history to outlaw slavery. Britain was the first. African countries didn't do it until well into the 20th century.
Not to mention the billions in reparations spent on helping the black community.
Posted on 1/9/24 at 12:35 pm to tigerpawl
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How can it be dismantled?
Cut funding
Posted on 1/9/24 at 12:47 pm to 4cubbies
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Maybe. I guess I'm not totally sure what is meant by DEI or how it positively or negatively impacts the general population. I came to the tread to post about systemic racism, so I haven't really touched the DEI aspect.
You've touched it, you just don't know it (or you know all about it but are playing dumb).
DEI (Diversity, Equity & Inclusion) is nothing more than the rebranding of CRT (Critical Race Theory). CRT was first brought up by Derrick Bell, who was inspired by CLS (Critical Legal Studies) which was the US successor to the Frankfurt School's critical theory work, which was derived directly from Marx's writings on the glories of Socialism. This is part of why CRT/DEI is also known as "cultural Marxism".
For the other part, we have to go back to Marxism's stance on capitalism and that, as a system, it alienates the masses. Marx saw capitalism as a system of perpetual victimization of the proletariat. Thus, capitalism was just a fancy word for saying "the legal victimization of the proletariat by the bourgeois", or "the proletariat will always be victims without socialism".
In that same vein, Bell stated that blacks will always be victims of racism, regardless of their accomplishments because of... "systemic racism" (although I don't think he used that exact term). This means that, within the CRT/DEI system, blacks can never be anything but victims and whites can never be anything but oppressors (the flip side of that coin, that the race-baiters try to ignore, is that if this is true then blacks can only succeed if whites allow it or help them to succeed).
So, CRT/DEI is the bedrock upon which is built the "systemic racism" you propone as being such a problem.
This post was edited on 1/9/24 at 12:49 pm
Posted on 1/9/24 at 12:49 pm to Bard
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you just don't know it (or you know all about it but are playing dumb).
She doesn’t know anything in the entire thread you posted. Further, she will argue that your entire post is incorrect despite knowing nothing about anything you posted.
Posted on 1/9/24 at 12:52 pm to Bard
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So, CRT/DEI is the bedrock upon which is built the "systemic racism" you propone as being such a problem.
And back to an earlier point I made: Democrats/Marxists FEAR the thought of a world without racism as it renders them completely powerless.
Pretend-racism is an HUGE industry in this country.
Posted on 1/9/24 at 1:13 pm to ReauxlTide222
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But cubbies, it’s coming straight from the mouth of a man in the most powerful position on planet earth.
And it is beyond clear that it’s a carefully shaped and implemented strategy consuming every institution we have. And it’s gaining speed every day.
How do you ignore that?
You focus on what you focus on. You ignore this stuff the same way you'd ignore anything else.
Do people in your life speak about DEI? Is that a term you hear in conversation regularly? Serious question. It's not something I ever hear my friends or family talk about. I don't hear it at work either, and I peripherally work for the government.
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Girl we have to get you caught up on what’s going on out there
NEVAR. Ignorance is bliss. I invite you to join me. Tune out national news and national politics.
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Shouldn’t it discredit the movement?
It definitely discredits Harvard.
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