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re: Deficits are up. How is this conservatism?
Posted on 3/6/19 at 2:03 pm to LSUFanHouston
Posted on 3/6/19 at 2:03 pm to LSUFanHouston
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So why are y'all so butt-hurt when we call out "Republicans" for not being conservative enough on financial issues?
We conservatives are not Republicans. But you leftists make them look like conservatives because you're communists.
Since you're not very bright let me give you an illustration that you might understand.
I am 5-8, 148 lbs. I am a conservative.
My workout partner is 5-9, 220, a republican.
I can tell him "lose weight because you're fat and unhealthy."
He accepts that.
But if a 5-7, 350 pound democrat gives him the same advice he tell you to frick off.
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Posted on 3/6/19 at 2:19 pm to LSUFanHouston
You just linked an investopedia article showing where the term came from. The answer is some leftist loser commie FDR supporter. You got me good baw.
Posted on 3/6/19 at 2:22 pm to Jjdoc
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It's truly amazing that you think conservatives are ok with it.
Not only are y'all not calling it out, but you are acting like it's no big deal.
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Congress spends.... not the President.
Actually, once again, false.
Congress appropriates via a budget. Presidents approves it. And actual spending is done by the various government agencies.
You have no idea how a budget works, do you?
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That pesky thing called a Constitution.
Which requires the President to sign, veto, or allow to become law without his signature. So, yeah, he's partly to blame here.
Posted on 3/6/19 at 2:25 pm to troyt37
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The senate doesn't spend any money either. They can pass or fail spending bills that originate in the house, but the Constitution says the money gets spent in the House. Much like the President can only sign or veto bills.
Once again, 100 percent false. Go back to civics class.
Spending/Revenue bills must ORIGINATE in the house. The Senate is perfectly fine to amend it as it sees fit, provided the House signs off on the amendments. The president can sign it or veto it. So... he can veto it and tell them to try harder.
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Are you saying you want Trump to not sign bills that aren't budget neutral? What if he isn't sent any bills that are budget neutral? Do we just shut it all down, and stop paying taxes to the feds?
Then shut it down. Yes, I don't want him to sign bills that have a deficit, or at least, ones that don't make the deficit worse.
Posted on 3/6/19 at 2:34 pm to Jjdoc
Here is my OP.
Now, where in my OP did I come out bashing Trump only or individually?
Trump bears a part of the responsibility. Your refusal to accept that does not change that fact. Trump signed bills that have caused deficits to grow and add to the national debt. End of story.
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LINK quote: The federal government recorded a budget surplus in January. But so far this budget year, the total deficit is 77 percent higher than the same period a year ago. The Treasury Department said Tuesday that the deficit for the first four months of this budget year, which began Oct. 1, totaled $310.3 billion. That's up from a deficit of $175.7 billion in the same period a year ago. The surplus in January was $8.7 billion. For those of you who may be excited about the January surplus... quote: The $8.7 billion surplus in January was down from a larger $49.2 billion surplus in January 2018. January, a month when both individuals and corporations make tax payments, has run surpluses in 26 of the past 65 years. Oh, and for those of you who are fans of trickle-down economics, and the idea that lowering tax rates will somehow increase total tax revenue due to more money being available to drive sales: quote: From October through January, government revenues total $1.11 trillion, down 1.7 percent from the same period a year ago. Government spending totals $1.15 trillion, up 8.8 percent from the same period a year ago. So the tax cuts are having a net reduction on federal revenue. Which is fine, I'm fully supportive of lesser federal revenues. But not only is spending not being cut to compensate, spending is up 8.8 percent. How can anyone who calls themselves a conservative - Trump Variety or RINO Variety or Establishment Variety - be ok with this? How in the hell are we not cutting spending?
Now, where in my OP did I come out bashing Trump only or individually?
Trump bears a part of the responsibility. Your refusal to accept that does not change that fact. Trump signed bills that have caused deficits to grow and add to the national debt. End of story.
Posted on 3/6/19 at 2:35 pm to Zach
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I am 5-8, 148 lbs.
Eat a damn sandwich, and maybe you won't be ornery all the time. Clearly, your brain is as skinny as the rest of your body.
Posted on 3/6/19 at 2:36 pm to LSUFanHouston
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Not only are y'all not calling it out, but you are acting like it's no big deal.
Again... We are calling out your veil attempt at bashing Trump. YOu would have been better off to say, "I don't like Trump....."
At least you would have been taken in a different light.
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Congress spends.... not the President.
Actually, once again, false.
Congress appropriates via a budget. Presidents approves it. And actual spending is done by the various government agencies.
You have no idea how a budget works, do you?
I do. Do you? Which ones passed were not veto proof?
Again.... you are a hack trying to pin something on the president that he has little control over.
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Which requires the President to sign, veto, or allow to become law without his signature. So, yeah, he's partly to blame here.
Nope!
Posted on 3/6/19 at 2:37 pm to LSUFanHouston
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Now, where in my OP did I come out bashing Trump only or individually?
Throughout this thread
Posted on 3/6/19 at 2:38 pm to LSUFanHouston
Temperatures are down and there's more ice now than 12 years ago... How is this global warming/Climate Change?
Posted on 3/6/19 at 2:44 pm to LSUFanHouston
I think I've found your problem. You're just another in a long line of people who somehow still believe that republican = conservative. I realize that the republican party sells that hard every 4 years or so, but you don't have to be gullible enough to buy it.
You actually expect the legislature to originate budget cutting, deficit reducing bills? The same legislature that couldn't manage to obliterate socialized medicine in the US? The same legislature that couldn't find a way to fund a border wall for two years, with majorities in both houses, along with the President pushing it? The same legislature that sent 3.5 billion to California for a fricking train? The same legislature that has us spending roughly 125 billion per year on illegal aliens?
I'm thinking you just aren't all that smart.
On a serious note though, frick you for trying to tie what is going on in our government these days to conservatism. Scapegoating conservatism and conservatives for the failures of big government republicans and socialist democrats may feel good, but the only way it gets you anywhere is if your goal is the destruction of this country.
You actually expect the legislature to originate budget cutting, deficit reducing bills? The same legislature that couldn't manage to obliterate socialized medicine in the US? The same legislature that couldn't find a way to fund a border wall for two years, with majorities in both houses, along with the President pushing it? The same legislature that sent 3.5 billion to California for a fricking train? The same legislature that has us spending roughly 125 billion per year on illegal aliens?
I'm thinking you just aren't all that smart.
On a serious note though, frick you for trying to tie what is going on in our government these days to conservatism. Scapegoating conservatism and conservatives for the failures of big government republicans and socialist democrats may feel good, but the only way it gets you anywhere is if your goal is the destruction of this country.
Posted on 3/6/19 at 2:55 pm to Jjdoc
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Again... We are calling out your veil attempt at bashing Trump. YOu would have been better off to say, "I don't like Trump....."
Again, Trump is a small part of this. For Trump's part... he's not nearly as much of a "pretend conservative" as the clowns in the House. No one ever thought Trump was a real conservative. When he said he was, we knew he was full of it.
Congrats on your boy getting the benefit of lowered expectations. You must be so proud.
Posted on 3/6/19 at 2:58 pm to troyt37
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You're just another in a long line of people who somehow still believe that republican = conservative. I realize that the republican party sells that hard every 4 years or so, but you don't have to be gullible enough to buy it.
You are right. I have higher standards for them then they do. I want a legitimate conservative party, not just "we don't suck as much as the Democrats" party.
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Scapegoating conservatism and conservatives for the failures of big government republicans and socialist democrats may feel good, but the only way it gets you anywhere is if your goal is the destruction of this country.
Like you said, every four years they spout off as if they are actual conservatives. Then, when they are called out on it, people like you - who don't have any standards whatsoever, get all snowflake on us.
Here's the truth... sorry if this causes you to melt...
Republicans suck arse.
Democrats suck more arse.
It's really pathetic that you are willing to put up with the first part, just because the second part is also true.
Posted on 3/6/19 at 3:07 pm to LSUFanHouston
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Government spending totals $1.15 trillion, up 8.8 percent from the same period a year ago
Oof
Posted on 3/6/19 at 3:08 pm to LSUFanHouston
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Again, Trump is a small part of this. For Trump's part... he's not nearly as much of a "pretend conservative" as the clowns in the House. No one ever thought Trump was a real conservative. When he said he was, we knew he was full of it.
Congrats on your boy getting the benefit of lowered expectations. You must be so proud.
I noticed you skipped the part where you were called out.
Please show your education and point to the non-veto proof spending budget bill that passed.
Come on with it.
I will state it again.
- Trump made every dept under his control cut their budget.
- Trump saved 700 Million for the f-35 deal
- Trump doesn't take a salary.
- Ending wars that cost
- forcing Europe and Nato to pay their fair share
You are simply a hack who tried to hide.
This post was edited on 3/6/19 at 3:12 pm
Posted on 3/6/19 at 3:20 pm to Jjdoc
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non-veto proof spending budget bill that passed.
"veto proof" is a political scam, we both know it.
Trump forcing each dept to cut their budget - I'll believe it when we actually see proof of it. I give him credit for trying... but will it actually happen?
Trump cutting the F-35 deal and Trump not taking a salary are both nice things that I give him credit for. Neither of which impact the deficit. Why?
1) Trump still draws a salary, the money (after taxes) is just donated to other government functions.
2) The F-35 still needed to be funded by Congress. So while I'm glad he took a leadership position and killed the program, it's not like he cut spending... he just didn't ask for it to be increased on this item. But, yeah, a win is a win.
Ending wars and forcing others to pay their share - he's trying.
I ain't hiding crap. Trump - and the GOPers in Congress - need to do more. Trump is currently doing more than the GOPers in Congress.
You too can now leave and get back in line to blow the president.
Posted on 3/6/19 at 3:33 pm to LSUFanHouston
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Like you said, every four years they spout off as if they are actual conservatives. Then, when they are called out on it, people like you - who don't have any standards whatsoever, get all snowflake on us.
Hey a-hole, tell me exactly how a conservative voter in Arkansas is to have any influence whatsoever on legislators from other states? Are you under some impression that someone like Paul Ryan ever gave a flying frick about your standards?
And if he, or even your own congressman looked you in the face, and said "Stick your standards up your arse!" exactly what are you going to do about it? Vote Democrat? Libertarian?
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It's really pathetic that you are willing to put up with the first part, just because the second part is also true.
If you have some super secret alternative to putting up with it, I'm all ears, governor. You want to load up and go take out the government, and reconstitute it as we see fit? You have the money to buy enough big government republicans to make them vote conservative? Or are you just bitching, expecting someone else to fix something that they have no more control over than you do?
Posted on 3/6/19 at 3:42 pm to LSUFanHouston
quote:It isn't!
Deficits are up. How is this conservatism?
Were you under the impression Mitch"We'llDropHimLikeAHotRock"McConnell or other Romney-McCainists were going to reduce spending when they have a Democrat House to work with? HellsBells my man, Trump can't even get their support for a damn wall. You think he can't get them to cut pet project spending?
This post was edited on 3/6/19 at 3:43 pm
Posted on 3/6/19 at 3:44 pm to LSUFanHouston
Let me help you out. Conservatism is just a dream that the GOP brings up when they are not in power. On this board unless you called out Obama for not being a conservative you can't call out Trump. Also any point that you make about Trump will be meet with " at least he is better than Hillary". The good point is the GOP will never be able to use conservatism or the lack of morals against another candidate again. The sad part is the Democratic party has been hijacked by super progressives wing and they suck just as bad as the GOP.
Posted on 3/6/19 at 3:48 pm to 90proofprofessional
muh, tax cuts for The Rich. We weren't able to pay for tax cuts from the getgo, and now the chickens have come home to roost.
This post was edited on 3/6/19 at 3:51 pm
Posted on 3/6/19 at 4:06 pm to tarzana
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muh, tax cuts for The Rich. We weren't able to pay for tax cuts from the getgo, and now the chickens have come home to roost.
You know, you could save yourself a lot of trouble, and just post "I'm a dumbass" in random threads a few times a day. Better yet, just put "I'm a dumbass" in your sig, and you wouldn't even have to use your brain enough to spell words.
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