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re: Deficits are up. How is this conservatism?
Posted on 3/6/19 at 1:32 pm to LSUFanHouston
Posted on 3/6/19 at 1:32 pm to LSUFanHouston
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Oh. And what did you find out, pray tell?
I found out that anyone who goes to NBC for football scores is a tard. Just like anyone who goes to NBC for 'news' is a tard. But don't take that in a bad way.
Posted on 3/6/19 at 1:33 pm to buckeye_vol
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Where are you getting this from?
Somewhere deep inside his anus, that's where.
Posted on 3/6/19 at 1:35 pm to LSUFanHouston
OP got absolutely OWNED in this thread and watching him back pedal is hilarious.
Posted on 3/6/19 at 1:37 pm to tigeraddict
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If nothing changes from year to year your statement would be within statistical margins. A same 4 month period should be stsctistically comparable year to year. However, the tax code was overhauled for 2018. Withholding tables were changed, repatriation taxes were lowered and the standard deduction was increased. Major changes.
A lot of people had money withheld based on a combination of new tables and what they paid the prior year. Once taxes are filed your actual tax liability is reconciled. You pay or get a refund. If refund you file immediately. If you pay you wait until April 15th
well, maybe non-withheld IIT for April will offset everything else and change the entire story. seems unlikely to cover the nominal reduction, let alone the inflation-adjusted one, but who knows i guess
Posted on 3/6/19 at 1:37 pm to tigeraddict
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Withholding tables were changed, repatriation taxes were lowered and the standard deduction was increased. Major changes.
The report compares Oct - Dec 2017, and Jan 2018, to Oct-Dec 2018, and Jan 2019.
Withholding tables - including adjustments for standard deduction increases, did not take effect for the vast majority of employees/employers until Feb 2018. So that's not part of these figures.
And estimated taxes paid in during this period were based on 2017 taxes, not 2018.
While what you are saying may have impacts on periods starting with Feb 2018, that's not the case here, which is why this such a strong data point.
Repatriation taxes are minimal, relative.
Posted on 3/6/19 at 1:37 pm to LSUFanHouston
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I never expected Trump to "fix" the debt. But, I did expect him to lower, or hopefully eliminate, the annual deficits, which is the annual amount that expenses exceed income.
Why? Was the line item veto voted into law at some point, and nobody was aware of it? Was the President made responsible for spending bills in this country at some point after Trump was elected, and nobody was made aware of it?
Trump asked for .1% of the budget to fulfill a constitutionally mandated job of the US Congress, and the socialist democrat party shut the government down over it. What exactly do you want done here? You want him to break out his pen and his phone, and run government the way he sees fit? Really?
Posted on 3/6/19 at 1:38 pm to MisslePig
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OP got absolutely OWNED in this thread and watching him back pedal is hilarious
Noone is backpeddling from anything. Stop embarrassing yourself. Your ignorance is strong here.
Posted on 3/6/19 at 1:38 pm to LSUFanHouston
my comparison was calendar 2017 vs calendar 2018 fwiw
Posted on 3/6/19 at 1:40 pm to imjustafatkid
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Would he have been in favor of ANY legislation to cut spending?
I'm sure Trump would sign reduction in spending legislation.
Who knows. Congress only writes bills that cost taxpayers money.
Posted on 3/6/19 at 1:40 pm to LSUFanHouston
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oone is backpeddling from anything. Stop embarrassing yourself. Your ignorance is strong here.
Pretty much showed you where you are wrong.
Just own it.
Posted on 3/6/19 at 1:41 pm to troyt37
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Trump asked for .1% of the budget to fulfill a constitutionally mandated job of the US Congress, and the socialist democrat party shut the government down over it. What exactly do you want done here? You want him to break out his pen and his phone, and run government the way he sees fit? Really?
I want Trump to not sign bills that have a deficit.
More importantly, I want, when the Republicans have both the House and the Senate, to not pass bills/CRs that don't have deficits.
Trump is not blameless. The frauds that make up the GOP in the house and senate are more to blame.
Posted on 3/6/19 at 1:42 pm to Jjdoc
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Pretty much showed you where you are wrong.
The only thing he showed was what comes out of the inside of his backside.
You can go back to sucking off Trump now.
This post was edited on 3/6/19 at 1:45 pm
Posted on 3/6/19 at 1:45 pm to LSUFanHouston
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The only thing he showed was what comes outside the inside of his backside.
Nope
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You can go back to sucking off Trump now.
Let it out man.... just let it out. now where exactly did he touch you?
Posted on 3/6/19 at 1:46 pm to Jjdoc
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Nope
yep
there is no factual basis for the claim of "cutting taxes by 14%", and it couldn't be more obvious that that poster hasn't a clue what he's talking about
Posted on 3/6/19 at 1:46 pm to Jjdoc
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Let it out man.... just let it out. now where exactly did he touch you?
it's truly amazing that y'all call yourselves "conservatives" and are completely ok with this crap, just because it's not the democrats that are doing this crap.
Posted on 3/6/19 at 1:52 pm to LSUFanHouston
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it's truly amazing that y'all call yourselves "conservatives" and are completely ok with this crap, just because it's not the democrats that are doing this crap.
We're not OK with govt spending. We only have two choices. Republicans and Communists.
Posted on 3/6/19 at 1:56 pm to Zach
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We're not OK with govt spending. We only have two choices. Republicans and Communists.
So why are y'all so butt-hurt when we call out "Republicans" for not being conservative enough on financial issues?
No one is suggesting you vote for the "communists". We are suggesting that either 1) Conservatives start to act like they are or 2) They stop pretending to care about financial issues.
Posted on 3/6/19 at 2:00 pm to LSUFanHouston
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it's truly amazing that y'all call yourselves "conservatives" and are completely ok with this crap,
It's truly amazing that you think conservatives are ok with it.
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just because it's not the democrats that are doing this crap.
Congress spends.... not the President.
That pesky thing called a Constitution.
Posted on 3/6/19 at 2:00 pm to LSUFanHouston
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I want Trump to not sign bills that have a deficit.
Bills have a deficit, pretty much by definition. Generally, congress passes bills to spend money. Are you saying you want Trump to not sign bills that aren't budget neutral? What if he isn't sent any bills that are budget neutral? Do we just shut it all down, and stop paying taxes to the feds?
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More importantly, I want, when the Republicans have both the House and the Senate, to not pass bills/CRs that don't have deficits.
So, you want them to pass bills that do have deficits? You can quit bitching. Done.
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Trump is not blameless.
Okay, you're President. Tell me exactly what you would have done in the last two years to achieve the results you expect, so I wouldn't blame you for whatever you are blaming Trump for. Under your presidency, is the government working, or is it shut down?
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The frauds that make up the GOP in the house and senate are more to blame.
The senate doesn't spend any money either. They can pass or fail spending bills that originate in the house, but the Constitution says the money gets spent in the House. Much like the President can only sign or veto bills.
This post was edited on 3/6/19 at 2:01 pm
Posted on 3/6/19 at 2:03 pm to LSUFanHouston
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So why are y'all so butt-hurt when we call out "Republicans" for not being conservative enough on financial issues?
We aren't. We are telling you the reasons and that Trump is not the cause.
Trump started out within his first week and saved the USA something like 700 Million per plane.
Trump doesn't take a salary.
Trump has removed red tape that cuts back on spending.
Trump told his departments to cut expenses by 5% in year 1.
In short.... your angle to bash Trump is being called out.
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