- My Forums
- Tiger Rant
- LSU Recruiting
- SEC Rant
- Saints Talk
- Pelicans Talk
- More Sports Board
- Fantasy Sports
- Golf Board
- Soccer Board
- O-T Lounge
- Tech Board
- Home/Garden Board
- Outdoor Board
- Health/Fitness Board
- Movie/TV Board
- Book Board
- Music Board
- Political Talk
- Money Talk
- Fark Board
- Gaming Board
- Travel Board
- Food/Drink Board
- Ticket Exchange
- TD Help Board
Customize My Forums- View All Forums
- Show Left Links
- Topic Sort Options
- Trending Topics
- Recent Topics
- Active Topics
Started By
Message
re: Deficits are up. How is this conservatism?
Posted on 3/6/19 at 12:22 pm to LSUFanHouston
Posted on 3/6/19 at 12:22 pm to LSUFanHouston
quote:
Again, this isn't an opinion piece or spin. It's a reporting of numbers that are from the CBO.
Everything on the front page of the NYT is opinion and spin. Everything on NBC is the same. You leftists deal in lying. So, I don't believe anything you say. It's perfectly logical.
2
Posted on 3/6/19 at 12:23 pm to LSUFanHouston
quote:Nope.
So the tax cuts are having a net reduction on federal revenue.
quote:you left off 'almost exclusively in non-discretionary areas'.
But not only is spending not being cut to compensate, spending is up 8.8 percent.
quote:Not OK with it... but the seeds for today's deficits were sewn during the Obama administartion.
How can anyone who calls themselves a conservative - Trump Variety or RINO Variety or Establishment Variety - be ok with this?
Here's a golden oldie... from 2013. Notice the predicted deficit increases starting in 2017 on?
Obama "stimulus" spending (that was really permananet), increase MEDi funding due to Obamacare, SS payouts, and the resulting debt service incurred as a result of Obama's borrowing created today's situation. Tons of detail (from 2010) in this PDF file
That's what debt does. It doesn't decrease the pain, only shifts when the pain is incurred.
This post was edited on 3/6/19 at 12:26 pm
Posted on 3/6/19 at 12:23 pm to LSUFanHouston
It's not. The USA has never had a revenue problem. We have a spending problem. Spineless politicians have allowed this.
Posted on 3/6/19 at 12:23 pm to LSUFanHouston
It's not. Most Republicans in Congress aren't fiscal conservatives. They spend like Democrats which is one reason I left the party. They ate still the lesser of the two evils.
Posted on 3/6/19 at 12:24 pm to Taxing Authority
quote:Campaign on cutting social security, medicaid, and medicare and see what happens. There is NO political appetite for cutting spending on the things that actually matter.
How in the hell are we not cutting spending?
Posted on 3/6/19 at 12:25 pm to Zach
i want a good economy. never expected trump to fix a 21 trillion deficit. dems will make sure they get what they want in any spending deal where they give trump any of what he wants.
Posted on 3/6/19 at 12:27 pm to CDawson
quote:Nope. Politicians have done exactly what they're designed to do. "We" the people have demanded (and continue to want) massive government spending. See Social Security and Medicare.
Spineless politicians have allowed this.
Posted on 3/6/19 at 12:29 pm to Taxing Authority
quote:
quote:
So the tax cuts are having a net reduction on federal revenue.
Nope.
so the OP is a lie.
Posted on 3/6/19 at 12:30 pm to LSUFanHouston
quote:
Others used the term to somehow believe that the following would occur: 1) Cut tax rates / taxes owed on current income 2) Companies will take savings and use them to create more revenue, which itself would be taxed 3) Therefore, there would be a net increase in federal tax revenue, not a net decrease. Essentially, as money flows faster through the economy, it gets hit with the tax wand more and more. So even thought the rate is lower, the wand collects more from additional total passes.
Except that is exactly what occurred...did no one even look at the tax receipts?
Investors Business Daily
Posted on 3/6/19 at 12:35 pm to ocelot4ark
quote:
It's not conservativism.
oh and forgot to add yeah man he is so damn liberal on all his policies like taxes and regs, and security and and guns
look at those liberal SCOTUS judges also
quote:
They will call you names.
because you are a fn moron
This post was edited on 3/6/19 at 1:24 pm
Posted on 3/6/19 at 12:37 pm to Tesla
quote:
Tesla
The article you link does a better job of "guessing" at what Trickle Down Economics does...his definition is inherently flawed but even more so lacking logic.
Wages are up, personal income taxes are up due to increased revenue, average owned assets by individuals are up...
In ALL measures, the individual is doing better. And I hate to use this term like this, that's "trickle down".
Posted on 3/6/19 at 12:38 pm to LSUFanHouston
Why is this article cherry picking date periods?
And I am more interested if revenue went up or down not defecits. Entitlement grows faster then inflation already and no one has balls enough to tackle that issue. And with omnibus spending increases no on has balls enough to tackle a budget.
But, you can’t go to October through January and compare just a snippet of the fiscal tax year. Especially when income tax revenue is mostly in by April 15th....
And I am more interested if revenue went up or down not defecits. Entitlement grows faster then inflation already and no one has balls enough to tackle that issue. And with omnibus spending increases no on has balls enough to tackle a budget.
But, you can’t go to October through January and compare just a snippet of the fiscal tax year. Especially when income tax revenue is mostly in by April 15th....
Posted on 3/6/19 at 12:38 pm to NIH
quote:
Even Republican voters would squirm at the thought of cutting social security / medicare / etc.
I hope you were joking.
Those mother frickers STEAL that money from my paycheck, I want as much of it back as I possibly can.
Cut welfare programs , end foreign aid , illegals , cut the military in half , cut the budget for Congressman , make EVERYONE pay Federal Income Tax , get rid of child tax credits , Earned Income Credit etc.
That 15.3% is STOLEN from my employer & I , I want MY money.
Posted on 3/6/19 at 12:42 pm to tjv305
quote:
How is Trump suppose to lower the deficit? He is trying to fix illegal immigration and democrats are blocking it just like they would block a cut to any entitlements. Democrats will spend the money up as long as its there .
This is a good point. The fact is, the majority of people wanting to come here illegally are parasites on the economy.
Posted on 3/6/19 at 12:45 pm to LSUFanHouston
quote:
So, he could veto these spending bills if he wanted to. He doesn't get off the hook.
I agree with you on that , he should have vetoed every budget and kept the government shutdown.
He needs to force those sorry arse Congressmen and women to override his veto.
Posted on 3/6/19 at 12:48 pm to MisslePig
When judging the effect of a tax policy on the budget and debt, you only need to look at receipts. The rest of any deficit and debt discussion is about spending.
Posted on 3/6/19 at 12:50 pm to 93and99
I'm guessing OP won't be back after the absolute arse beating he just got handed. 
I wonder if I broke his mind with how are revenues down 1.7% when we cut taxes by over 14%...I can seem him in a corner with a hand held calculator trying to figure it out.
Most importantly, he's definitely going to miss the time value aspect of this as he's harping on the ONE YEAR effect of a major tax plan.
And of course exposing to him how the individual is doing better in every major category since the tax cuts...which one can say "trickled down" to them is going to effect his next post.
I wonder if I broke his mind with how are revenues down 1.7% when we cut taxes by over 14%...I can seem him in a corner with a hand held calculator trying to figure it out.
Most importantly, he's definitely going to miss the time value aspect of this as he's harping on the ONE YEAR effect of a major tax plan.
And of course exposing to him how the individual is doing better in every major category since the tax cuts...which one can say "trickled down" to them is going to effect his next post.
Posted on 3/6/19 at 12:52 pm to LSUFanHouston
Its not.
No one I know has said conservatives are in the majority in the Senate, the House or as POTUS.
Fiscal conservatives have less sightings in DC than Manbearpig.
No one I know has said conservatives are in the majority in the Senate, the House or as POTUS.
Fiscal conservatives have less sightings in DC than Manbearpig.
Posted on 3/6/19 at 12:55 pm to LSUFanHouston
I don’t need lessons from leftist and socialists
Posted on 3/6/19 at 12:58 pm to ocelot4ark
quote:Well, you're wrong. Here's your answer, Trump is not particularly conservative when it comes to govt spending and the republicans are too spineless to push for spending cuts. When was the last real budget passed, 2007?
They'll have no answer. They don't have principles. They're hypocrites. They will call you names.
Page 5 of 10
Popular
Back to top
Follow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News