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re: Declassified Flynn unmasking list...Biden is on the list

Posted on 5/13/20 at 2:16 pm to
Posted by GRTiger
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Posted on 5/13/20 at 2:16 pm to
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Why would Clapper request the same unmasking 3 different times? Once he knew the name, why would he request it again???


Right, this release is misleading, I believe. This isn't a list of all unmasking requests related to the Flynn call. It's a list of every unmasking request made between 11/8/16 and 1/31/20, which I guess is the timing of the Flynn unmasking.

In other words, maybe only one of the requests listed was related to Flynn.
This post was edited on 5/13/20 at 2:18 pm
Posted by NashvilleTider
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Posted on 5/13/20 at 2:17 pm to
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There was NSA product being gathered on General Michael Flynn before the Kislyak phone call. That is flat out spying.
Posted by purplepylon
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Posted on 5/13/20 at 2:17 pm to
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Explain this to me like I'm a two-year-old. What does any of this news mean?



Obama admin unmasked Flynn to try and harm Trump before he took the oath. Did so for Russian interference reasons, which turned out to be a hoax. They basically got caught using foreign intelligence for political reasons
Posted by Choctaw
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Posted on 5/13/20 at 2:18 pm to
Rand Paul calling for a hearing right now
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Posted by Bunyan
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Posted on 5/13/20 at 2:18 pm to
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Okay, so let's see if we can time these unmaskings to events that happened.

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On November 30, 2016, Samantha Power's first unmasking, this was the same day as the Department of Justice sending a letter to Flynn about his work with Flynn Intel Group and Inovo BV being scrutinised.

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On December 2, 2016, Samantha Power's 2nd unmasking and James Clapper's 1st unmasking, this was either the same day - or the day after - a 20 minute Trump Tower meeting between Flynn, Kushner and Ambassador Kislyak, which Kislyak reported to his superiors - which was intercepted.

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Everything that is for December 14, 15, 16, 2016 will probably be about Sheikh al-Nahyan and George Nader meeting with Flynn, Kushner and Steve Bannon at Trump Tower on December 15.

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Note that the meeting between Sheikh al-Nahyan and the Trump transition team was discovered on a flight manifest by US border agents, and the information was passed to the Obama White House.

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This request from Ambassador Bass on December 28, 2016 would presumably have something to do with Inovo BV and Flynn Intel Group.

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Clapper's December 28, 2016 unmasking request most likely had to do with the Russian sanctions though, as Obama signed the executive order for them and Flynn and Kislyak spoke the same day.

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Denis McDonough's January 5, 2017 unmasking request was obviously the Oval Office meeting, where Flynn was a main topic of conversation, because Obama and team wanted to hold off handing over intelligence to the Trump transition team because Russia.

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Posted by Jyrdis
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Posted on 5/13/20 at 2:18 pm to
Is this it? Is it finally happening?
Posted by Possumslayer
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Posted on 5/13/20 at 2:19 pm to
Hannity is saying it’s a list of people that requested unmasking Flynn only.
Posted by GumboPot
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Posted on 5/13/20 at 2:20 pm to
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But unless there is a paper trail showing Biden's office told this reporter the name, its all circumstantial.


You are correct. However the Office of the Director of National Intelligence just doesn't write some random name down without evidence, right?
Posted by Choctaw
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Posted on 5/13/20 at 2:20 pm to
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Hannity is saying it’s a list of people that requested unmasking Flynn only.




not all regarding the phone call though
Posted by Lsut81
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Posted on 5/13/20 at 2:21 pm to
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Right, this release is misleading, I believe. This isn't a list of all unmasking requests related to the Flynn call. It's a list of every unmasking request made between 11/8/16 and 1/31/20, which I guess is the timing of the Flynn unmasking.



Does Grenell have the names tied to names? Like Biden asked for Flynn specifically?

Is that in the back pocket, letting this leak and then that hammer will drop after more people box themselves into a corner?
Posted by GRTiger
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Posted on 5/13/20 at 2:21 pm to
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Hannity is saying it’s a list of people that requested unmasking Flynn only.


Ok, I am just spit balling here based only on the documents. He may have more info or other sources clarifying it.
Posted by Choctaw
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Posted on 5/13/20 at 2:21 pm to
as this guy on Fox just said...

this is basically a list of suspects...to make it simple
Posted by VOLhalla
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Posted on 5/13/20 at 2:22 pm to
Not really sure why you're laughing. The whole point of unmasking is to see the blanked out name. So when you first look at the call transcript, you don't see Flynn's name. Just the Russian ambassador. Then you make the request to see the blanked out name.

So the ambassador to Turkey would have no idea Flynn was on the call until after the unmasking request was made and approved.
Posted by Bunyan
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Posted on 5/13/20 at 2:22 pm to
Seems to be a lot of confusion here. This list deals with unmasking General Flynn...not JUST the phone call with the Russian ambassador

Here's the problem though...a lot of these requests predate that phone call with the ambassador. Flat out spying of Flynn with no predication
Posted by cajunangelle
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Posted on 5/13/20 at 2:22 pm to
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Rand Paul calling for a hearing right now
I love me some Rand but isn't Durham investigating this? Did Barr put out the dog whistle he needs criminal referrals for Durham because they got nothing? Or is this a big stall dog and pony show? What is going on here? The deep state is sadly winning last I checked.

BIG Deja Vu
This post was edited on 5/13/20 at 2:23 pm
Posted by Bunyan
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Posted on 5/13/20 at 2:23 pm to
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So when you first look at the call transcript, you don't see Flynn's name. Just the Russian ambassador. Then you make the request to see the blanked out name.

That's illegal, by the way
Posted by Choctaw
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Posted on 5/13/20 at 2:23 pm to
i seriously doubt anything happens to Biden because it would absolutely stunningly stupid for him to leak Flynns name.

but just having his name on this list can't be good for his campaign
Posted by guedeaux
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Posted on 5/13/20 at 2:24 pm to
n/m Bunyan's timeline is much more better
This post was edited on 5/13/20 at 2:25 pm
Posted by Choctaw
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Posted on 5/13/20 at 2:24 pm to
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That's illegal, by the way




no its not. not if you have the authority to unmask...which several people do. the illegal part is leaking the info to the media...which someone on that list did
This post was edited on 5/13/20 at 2:25 pm
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
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Posted on 5/13/20 at 2:24 pm to
What did Joe Biden forget, and when did he forget it?
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