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re: Dan Marino suing NFL over concussions
Posted on 6/3/14 at 12:04 pm to Revelator
Posted on 6/3/14 at 12:04 pm to Revelator
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So you are telling me that a man that plays football from youth and is either injured multiple times or witnesses other injured on the field or locker room had no clue that football would be detrimental to his physical health long term?
The effects of repeated minor brain trauma take years to appear. A blown out knee is obvious when it happens.
And we are not just talking about "physical health". A trick knee or a chronically painful back are one thing. The inability to think straight or take care of your own business is MUCH worse.
If guys like Marino had known about the brain disease earlier, who's to say they would have kept playing as long? If the NFL knew, they had a responsibility to protect the players.
Posted on 6/3/14 at 12:08 pm to Revelator
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How can a person sue the NFL for concussions after willingly playing a sport and making a living doing something where the risk were clearly known in advance?
Posted on 6/3/14 at 12:10 pm to a want
People sued and won over smoking I believe. The surgeon general warning was not enough to keep them from harming themselves.
Posted on 6/3/14 at 12:11 pm to TigerRad
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And we are not just talking about "physical health". A trick knee or a chronically painful back are one thing. The inability to think straight or take care of your own business is MUCH worse. If guys like Marino had known about the brain disease earlier, who's to say they would have kept playing as long? If the NFL knew, they had a responsibility to protect the players.
I get this and it's a possibility that the NFL wasn't forthcoming with the information they had on brain injuries? My problem is that guys like Marino now after the fact will pretend that they were completely clueless to the risk of playing football just to get a payday and possibly destroy a sport that made them millionaires along the way.
Posted on 6/3/14 at 12:13 pm to Revelator
This law suit is probably more symbolic than monetary in nature.
Posted on 6/3/14 at 12:18 pm to Revelator
What is the end game with all of this? What if the league has peaked at doing everything it can to protect the players? Guys are still going to get concussions.
Is this the long winding road to the death of football?
There are doctors and studies out there that say 1 concussion is too many. I'm not sure what else can be done to mitigate these types of injuries. Moving forward I think players and the various football leagues from Pop Warner through the Pros have to determine what level of risk they are willing to assume.
Is this the long winding road to the death of football?
There are doctors and studies out there that say 1 concussion is too many. I'm not sure what else can be done to mitigate these types of injuries. Moving forward I think players and the various football leagues from Pop Warner through the Pros have to determine what level of risk they are willing to assume.
Posted on 6/3/14 at 12:22 pm to Revelator
Wasn't he one of the least sacked QBs in the history of the NFL? 
Posted on 6/3/14 at 12:30 pm to Revelator
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What am I missing?!!
I've told you repeatedly. No one back then thought "getting your bell rung " was a big deal, let alone could cause long term brain damage.
Is that so hard for you to grasp?
This post was edited on 6/3/14 at 12:38 pm
Posted on 6/3/14 at 12:43 pm to Revelator
People have known for decades that concussions lead to permanent brain damage. The old term in boxing was "punch drunk." All these players knew but either didn't think it could happen to them or took the calculated risk.
Posted on 6/3/14 at 1:08 pm to Revelator
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How can a person sue the NFL for concussions after willingly playing a sport and making a living doing something where the risk were clearly known in advance? Is this any different than a 40 year smoker suing the tobacco companies after coming down with cancer?
...even worse, how was he harmed? The guy had a very long career, had a very long second career without an effect from concussions.
This seems to be a money grab.
Posted on 6/3/14 at 1:12 pm to Revelator
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It's a full contact sport where grown men are hitting each other at top speed. Every pro played ball from youth and endured multiple injuries along the way. It is unimaginable that anyone choosing this sport as a career wouldn't be aware of the long term repercussions of playing such a violent sport?
Are you saying that you believe the average NFL player in the 1980s was capable of instinctually knowing the specifics of the brain damage they would suffer from down the line?
That's pretty impressive, given that even doctors had no such knowledge then.
Posted on 6/3/14 at 1:13 pm to Bmath
You can bet the left will use concussions as a reason to ban football.
Enjoy the sport while you can.
Enjoy the sport while you can.
This post was edited on 6/3/14 at 1:15 pm
Posted on 6/3/14 at 1:17 pm to Roger Klarvin
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Are you saying that you believe the average NFL player in the 1980s was capable of instinctually knowing the specifics of the brain damage they would suffer from down the line?
That's pretty impressive, given that even doctors had no such knowledge then.
If the Dr's. didn't know, how could the NFL be liable?
Posted on 6/3/14 at 1:22 pm to Chimlim
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You can bet the left will use concussions as a reason to ban football. Enjoy the sport while you can.
Well my right leaning parents didn't let me play football until middle school because they were worried about serious injuries. Heck my mom doesn't even like watching football because of the injuries.
I don't think this is a leftist issue.
Posted on 6/3/14 at 1:23 pm to Revelator
Meh, People can claim that the players are the victims. However, if you played football for a living and are trying to tell me you didn't know it was dangerous or that it would have long term adverse health effects, then I don't what to tell you, you're (the players) a moron.
It's common sense. You spend years of your life exerting THAT much physical energy all the while getting completely destroyed on the field and you act like you were going to be able to lead a normal physical life later on? Come on. It's a money grab.
If you were misdiagnosed, then I can see where you'd have a case and should receive some sort of compensation. But otherwise, you don't deserve a damn thing.
Don't want adverse health effects later on? Don't play. The players knew what they were doing and even when they were injured, they said they weren't to get back on the field. Money grab...all this is.
I may not know every single detail of what will happen to me, but even a 10 year old can figure out that if you allow yourself to be physically hit and tackled every day for any prolonged period of time, you will suffer health-wise down the road.
This whole lawsuit is just another illustration of an ignorant group claiming they are victims of some big bad wolf owners who have money.
MONEY GRAB.
ETA: The irony here...these are the same players that talked about how much tougher they are than today's players because they didn't bitch about injuries and played through them.
Now all of a sudden you're crying about how severe your injuries are because money is involved.
It's common sense. You spend years of your life exerting THAT much physical energy all the while getting completely destroyed on the field and you act like you were going to be able to lead a normal physical life later on? Come on. It's a money grab.
If you were misdiagnosed, then I can see where you'd have a case and should receive some sort of compensation. But otherwise, you don't deserve a damn thing.
Don't want adverse health effects later on? Don't play. The players knew what they were doing and even when they were injured, they said they weren't to get back on the field. Money grab...all this is.
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Are you saying that you believe the average NFL player in the 1980s was capable of instinctually knowing the specifics of the brain damage they would suffer from down the line?
I may not know every single detail of what will happen to me, but even a 10 year old can figure out that if you allow yourself to be physically hit and tackled every day for any prolonged period of time, you will suffer health-wise down the road.
This whole lawsuit is just another illustration of an ignorant group claiming they are victims of some big bad wolf owners who have money.
MONEY GRAB.
ETA: The irony here...these are the same players that talked about how much tougher they are than today's players because they didn't bitch about injuries and played through them.
Now all of a sudden you're crying about how severe your injuries are because money is involved.
This post was edited on 6/3/14 at 1:29 pm
Posted on 6/3/14 at 1:35 pm to Revelator
Just wondering what Danny boy would have done if when he came out of college they had told him that he had already had one concussion so playing any more would lead to brain damage.
Or coming out of high school he couldn't sign a scholarship? And on and on. Who gets sued then? The first kid that hit him hard enough to give him a concussion?
Or coming out of high school he couldn't sign a scholarship? And on and on. Who gets sued then? The first kid that hit him hard enough to give him a concussion?
Posted on 6/3/14 at 1:35 pm to Revelator
He's broke, I think he lost 14 million in an investment scheme.
Posted on 6/3/14 at 2:01 pm to Strannix
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He's broke, I think he lost 14 million in an investment scheme.
That makes sense.
Posted on 6/3/14 at 2:06 pm to moneyg
Hall of Fame quarterback Dan Marino intends to withdraw from a concussion-related lawsuit against the NFL, according to a report by the South Florida Sun-Sentinel.
Posted on 6/3/14 at 3:32 pm to Pennymoney
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I've told you repeatedly. No one back then thought "getting your bell rung " was a big deal, let alone could cause long term brain damage. Is that so hard for you to grasp?
And apparently you can't get that common sense tells a person that if he runs full speed into another person repeatedly, it will have detrimental affects on his body long term. Even Captain Obvious would know this.
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