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re: DAMN - so tired of "GOP had control of congress and POTUS so why didn't they do it then
Posted on 1/12/19 at 5:16 pm to funnystuff
Posted on 1/12/19 at 5:16 pm to funnystuff
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We had 2 years in complete control and couldn’t get shite done.
What? They got tons done.
Posted on 1/12/19 at 5:17 pm to Green Chili Tiger
Has anyone actually presents a bill that trump vetoed? Why are the dems shutting down government?
Posted on 1/12/19 at 5:19 pm to TigerMyth36
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Now, if people want to ask that question, how about why didn't democrats repeal the Patriot Act, change immigration and gun control laws when they had 60 votes.
This is precisely what was in my mind when I mashed out my OP.
The only time in my memory that one party actually DID have 'complete control' was Obams's first two years - >60 in the Senate is hard to achieve. And even then it takes senators who are lock-step with the prevailing part agenda. GOP never has that kind on uni-speak on any topic.
We couldnt even get 50 to take down Obamacare - which was only their because of the fluke 60 DEMs in the Sentate.
McCain can roast in hell for that.
And it is true - why didn't we at least press for the wall doing that time?? I was apoplectic the whole time that we were not pressingt the issue. I suspect they knew of the snowflake DEMs who would side with the DEMs.
But in any event - no party has "complete control' unless they have a secure 60 votes in the senate.
THe phrase grates on my nerves - and I cannot understand why any journalist would allow it to pass.
Posted on 1/12/19 at 5:46 pm to TGFN57
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Nuclear option.
if they do that every fricking time to pass shite if the Dems ever get back control of the senate we are fricked.
Posted on 1/12/19 at 6:00 pm to t00f
I don’t see why everyone doesn’t get this and why it isn’t mentioned. This is just Kavanaugh 2.0. The dems regardless of the obvious merits of Kavanaugh and a Border Wall are going to be against it because it’s Trump. That’s all this is....Hillary said it right away, it’s the Resistance.
Posted on 1/12/19 at 6:41 pm to Powerman
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I think the point is if they couldn't achieve it then they won't be able to achieve it now
Unless the president puts his foot down and demands it.
Have you been in a cave?
Posted on 1/12/19 at 6:43 pm to ChineseBandit58
They still should have passed it and forced the Dems to filibuster.
Posted on 1/12/19 at 6:51 pm to 995webmaster
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Trump's Vanity Wall wasn't an emergency until the GOP lost control of the House.
WHY is that?
We are now seeing organized massive groups traveling to the border trying to gain entrance.
Did you forget about the caravans?
Posted on 1/12/19 at 6:58 pm to ChineseBandit58
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This post was edited on 6/6/19 at 8:57 am
Posted on 1/12/19 at 7:08 pm to ChineseBandit58
Am I just not remembering correctly that Trump signed the proposal last year and said he not sign another budget if it didn't include funding for the border wall?
Posted on 1/12/19 at 7:10 pm to 995webmaster
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That’s cute.
So it’s your contention that everything not addressed immediately upon inauguration cannot ever be declared an emergency? That’s just stupid.
Posted on 1/12/19 at 7:15 pm to Jcorye1
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They still should have passed it and forced the Dems to filibuster.
I agree with that - and I want a filibuster to actually be a person standing in the Senate delivering a speech - and the moment they cannot produce another one to continue the filibuster, the filibuster fails.
This business of just "declaring a filibuster because we have 41 NO votes is bullshite.
Posted on 1/12/19 at 7:32 pm to Old Hellen Yeller
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until the GOP got its arse handed to it in the midterms
Actually it was the narrowest victory for a mid term from the party out of power in ages or (ever?) either way it wasn't an arse kicking.
Posted on 1/12/19 at 7:44 pm to moneyg
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We are now seeing organized massive groups traveling to the border trying to gain entrance. Did you forget about the caravans?
Great point. Prior to the Mid-Terms, there were no caravans that I can recall the media reporting on.
Could it be that this "manufactured" crisis is the result of the Dems creating it for the Mid-Terms? I bet so.
Posted on 1/12/19 at 7:49 pm to ChineseBandit58
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I hear this dozens of time every day and have NEVER heard anyone rebut it.
WHY is that?
Because it's a true and devastating argument against your idiotic position.
Posted on 1/12/19 at 7:54 pm to ChineseBandit58
Translation:
I don't like the truth hitting me in ther face because its detrimental the the side of politics I identify with
I need groupthink to feed me some bullshite that I can say back because my feelings are hurt.
Yet it's the other side that are snowflakes lmao you idiot repubs are as bad as the sad Dems both garbage.
I don't like the truth hitting me in ther face because its detrimental the the side of politics I identify with
I need groupthink to feed me some bullshite that I can say back because my feelings are hurt.
Yet it's the other side that are snowflakes lmao you idiot repubs are as bad as the sad Dems both garbage.
Posted on 1/12/19 at 8:08 pm to Old Hellen Yeller
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The point there is this really isn’t an emergency if it can wait 2 years. This was on the back burner until the GOP got its arse handed to it in the midterms. And now, predictably, they will double down on stupid.
Trump gave in the last on the government shut down and said he wasn’t going to do it again. He has tried to do things the right way but Democrats keep refusing to work with him.
Posted on 1/12/19 at 8:17 pm to FooManChoo
yep just like mccain fricked us on obamacare repeal
everything should be done by now. the wall may be the last thing. taxes and regs fixed. economy fixed. trade fixed. SCOTUS fixed. ISIS fixed. obamacare ( f u john) and wall left.
everything should be done by now. the wall may be the last thing. taxes and regs fixed. economy fixed. trade fixed. SCOTUS fixed. ISIS fixed. obamacare ( f u john) and wall left.
Posted on 1/12/19 at 8:35 pm to ChineseBandit58
Trump made exactly the same argument. Sad!
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