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re: Dallas D.A. plans to stop prosecuting thefts under $750 to help ‘people of color’

Posted on 4/16/19 at 9:12 am to
Posted by real turf fan
East Tennessee
Member since Dec 2016
8647 posts
Posted on 4/16/19 at 9:12 am to
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Homeboy Shopping Channel expanding to Dallas County.


One of the great TV shows that couldn't last two episodes in today's PC world.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
42941 posts
Posted on 4/16/19 at 9:24 am to
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Can't wait till hes robbed at gunpoint for his shoes
This new policy addresses misdemeanors. As soon as the perpetrator pulls a weapon, the offense becomes a felony. The new policy would not apply.
This post was edited on 4/16/19 at 9:37 am
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 4/16/19 at 9:56 am to
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This new policy addresses misdemeanors. As soon as the perpetrator pulls a weapon, the offense becomes a felony. The new policy would not apply.
The new policy renders a gun unnecessary?

Need something new that costs less than $750?

Just walk into the store, pick it up and walk out of the store with it.

Wave to employees as you leave!
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260483 posts
Posted on 4/16/19 at 10:01 am to
We had to go back and revise our policy. People were literally walking in and out of stores with electronics
Posted by wfallstiger
Wichita Falls, Texas
Member since Jun 2006
11431 posts
Posted on 4/16/19 at 10:12 am to
Yes, is an absolute, grade A, clown show
Posted by MrLSU
Yellowstone, Val d'isere
Member since Jan 2004
25982 posts
Posted on 4/16/19 at 10:14 am to
Finally a nonsense idea to end crime.
Posted by Numberwang
Bike City, USA
Member since Feb 2012
13163 posts
Posted on 4/16/19 at 10:15 am to
Dallas is kind of a shithole.

Sure, the "uptown" area and downtown have improved and seen investment, but the overall city itself gets dirtier and nastier every year. 20 years to full-blown third world status.

Posted by MisslePig
Member since Jul 2018
961 posts
Posted on 4/16/19 at 10:22 am to
Hilarious that people are calling Dallas a $%*# hole...this policy has so many loopholes that it's pure politics at its finest.
Posted by TOSOV
Member since Jan 2016
8922 posts
Posted on 4/16/19 at 10:25 am to
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People in urban areas already complain about "food deserts" because shop owners don't want to set up in high crime areas.


Not sure if mentioned already, but funy how this comes out a little after Walmart announces a store closing down in south oak cliff (predomently long time black part of Dallas).
Posted by Ebbandflow
Member since Aug 2010
13457 posts
Posted on 4/16/19 at 2:52 pm to
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And this really does serve to highlight a main difference between conservative and liberal ideologies: liberals do not seem to believe in free will or consequence of actions;


No it's just further evidence of the Hardline right-wing wanting to punish people and virtue signal from their privileged moral High Ground.

Conservatives love to be punitive and they love to say that they're better than you. Look at Donald Trump speech where he brags that you guys have bigger boats and houses.

Most conservative people are authoritarians in disguise. You would keep people in jail at the expense of the public, through taxes, just to be able to hold someone else down to make yourself feel better.

In Austin Texas they don't arrest people for anything under $100. You can sue them in a civil suit and they will still end up having to pay for it plus all of the court costs but that's still cheaper on the rest of society than throwing them in jail.

All of your hard line bullshite is just window dressing for the seething Beast inside of you that wants to dominate.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 4/16/19 at 3:00 pm to
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No it's just further evidence of the Hardline right-wing wanting to punish people and virtue signal from their privileged moral High Ground.


So just to be clear.

You support the idea that a person stealing $749 worth of stuff shouldn't be prosecuted?
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
112617 posts
Posted on 4/16/19 at 3:03 pm to
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Most conservative people are authoritarians in disguise.


How dare they want to punish those who steal the property of another

quote:

In Austin Texas they don't arrest people for anything under $100. You can sue them in a civil suit and they will still end up having to pay for it plus all of the court costs but that's still cheaper on the rest of society than throwing them in jail.


yes. penalize the store owner by making them head on down to small claims court every time some piece of shite decides to grab something. sound efficient.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
112617 posts
Posted on 4/16/19 at 3:03 pm to
i feel like i'm taking crazy pills reading posts like those

i mean, what the frick has happened to these people?
Posted by Numberwang
Bike City, USA
Member since Feb 2012
13163 posts
Posted on 4/16/19 at 3:04 pm to
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Most conservative people are authoritarians in disguise. You would keep people in jail at the expense of the public, through taxes, just to be able to hold someone else down to make yourself feel better.


It isn't really surprising, given your post history here, but I'll take a swing at this.

You believe that Conservatives want people in jail to feel better about themselves?

That's a great illustration of your victimhood complex and "oppression-oriented" belief system. To your mind, jails only exist to "oppress" and "marginalize" people. I mean, that's an insane worldview, but whatever.... It is based in emotion, rather than logic. I'm sure your response to this will also be emotional.

Prisons exist because, without them, crime would be out of control and we'd no longer have a civilization.

To me, the fight against Leftists like yourself is one of having a civilization vs not having a civilization. It's the difference between human beings achieving space travel and exploring the universe in the future, versus being mired into another Dark Age of violence, poverty and misery, because that is literally all Leftists are capable of producing.

Misery, mediocrity, violence and poverty.

Posted by Ebbandflow
Member since Aug 2010
13457 posts
Posted on 4/16/19 at 3:07 pm to
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You support the idea that a person stealing $749 worth of stuff shouldn't be prosecuted?


I guess you've never heard of a civil suit. I don't think it is wise to put someone in jail and have the public spend more money keeping them there than it costs in the property they stole.
This post was edited on 4/16/19 at 3:08 pm
Posted by Ebbandflow
Member since Aug 2010
13457 posts
Posted on 4/16/19 at 3:09 pm to
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How dare they want to punish those who steal the property of another


Where do you live? Do you know what the limit is where you live on how much is prosecuted for stealing?
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
26316 posts
Posted on 4/16/19 at 3:11 pm to
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guess you've never heard of a civil suit. I don't think it is wise to put someone in jail and have the public spend more money keeping them there than it costs in the property they stole.


Wait you think you are going to recover in a civil suit from the guy who stole your laptop or something out of your truck? Or whatever other <$750 larcency one can imagine

That’s either the most disengenous take in the entire thread or a sign of crippling naïveté.

Why haven’t we thought of that before! Just spend hundreds of dollars to sue the low life thug with no assets that stole your laptop. You’ll surely recover!

EL OH EL
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
112617 posts
Posted on 4/16/19 at 3:12 pm to
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I guess you've never heard of a civil suit.


Civil suits cost time and money. Do you really fricking think someone who is committing theft from stores will pay any court costs or judgement?
Posted by Ebbandflow
Member since Aug 2010
13457 posts
Posted on 4/16/19 at 3:12 pm to
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You believe that Conservatives want people in jail to feel better about themselves?


Yes. You're a very unforgiving authoritarian bunch and even at the expense of your fiscally conservative moniker, you would lock up someone for stealing $100 worth of items and it cost the public $1,000 to take care of that person. Pretty obvious that that model hasn't worked but you would cut your nose off to spite your face just to rub someone else's face in it.

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That's a great illustration of your victimhood complex and "oppression-oriented" belief system. To your mind, jails only exist to "oppress" and "marginalize" people. I mean, that's an insane worldview, but whatever.... It is based in emotion, rather than logic.



Logic? Lol. Don't make me laugh. There is no logic in your approach. Wanting to punish people is an emotional response. Realizing the institution such as jail don't ever have the desired result of rehabilitating someone is using your logical brain. Obviously if someone is a danger two others then they need to be locked away and I think everybody would agree on that. But stealing a $100 shirt, not so much
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
112617 posts
Posted on 4/16/19 at 3:16 pm to
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You're a very unforgiving authoritarian bunch and even at the expense of your fiscally conservative moniker, you would lock up someone for stealing $100 worth of items and it cost the public $1,000 to take care of that person. Pretty obvious that that model hasn't worked but you would cut your nose off to spite your face just to rub someone else's face in it.


This makes no sense. The deterrence of punishing people for theft far outweighs the amount of money spent policing them. Do you really want to live in a society where theft is only enforced via small claims court?

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Logic? Lol. Don't make me laugh. There is no logic in your approach. Wanting to punish people is an emotional response. Realizing the institution such as jail don't ever have the desired result of rehabilitating someone is using your logical brain. Obviously if someone is a danger two others then they need to be locked away and I think everybody would agree on that. But stealing a $100 shirt, not so much



Rehabilitation is not the only purpose of jail. Actions have consequences.
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