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Posted on 1/24/20 at 1:31 pm to DavidTheGnome
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DavidTheGnome
So you'd rather have planned parenthood selling baby parts?
Posted on 1/24/20 at 6:29 pm to DarthRebel
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So you are for murdering babies, interesting.
No I’m not, I disagree that it’s murder and I think the only people that need to be involved in that conversation is the woman and her doctor, there no place at all for the government. I also disagree with the idea that they are "babies", at least not at first.
It’s a tough and excruciating thing to go through and even though it’s painted as such it’s not always due to convenience. If a woman’s life is in danger there’s no reason whatsoever she shouldn’t be allowed to save herself. Talk about government overreach. The laws where she has to hear the heartbeat or listen to the doc say certain scripted things to shame her is ridiculous. I don’t see how anyone could say they are for small government but at the same time think that the government needs to step in and make medical decisions for a woman.
Posted on 1/24/20 at 6:31 pm to Walkthedawg
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So you'd rather have planned parenthood selling baby parts?
So long as the woman consents I don’t really care. It sounds abhorrent but I don’t know enough about it or what those "parts" are used for to really have much of an opinion honestly. It doesn’t change my stance on abortion though.
Posted on 1/24/20 at 7:17 pm to DavidTheGnome
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It doesn’t change my stance on abortion though.
That’s a lazy and detestable stance.
Posted on 1/24/20 at 7:29 pm to Pecker
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That question is only valid when black people are marching during work hours
Or it could be that nonskyscreamers are exponentially more selective with their marching and this has been a key human rights issue--especially for blacks--for many decades. So taxpayers take off work to attend. It's not a paid position like Soros-funded sock puppet rallies and riots.
Obligatory: idiot.
This post was edited on 1/24/20 at 7:30 pm
Posted on 1/24/20 at 7:48 pm to Elleshoe
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Don’t these people have jobs?
The men are working and making the money they need.
Posted on 1/24/20 at 7:50 pm to DavidTheGnome
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It sounds abhorrent but I don’t know enough about it or what those "parts" are used for
How about where those fully formed and functional "parts" come from??
Posted on 1/24/20 at 7:54 pm to DavidTheGnome
Posted on 1/24/20 at 8:07 pm to AggieHank86
quote:ah yes. "sapience."
depending upon his/her own personal hierarchy of rights
Posted on 1/24/20 at 8:08 pm to autauga
Cute little group of cultists
Posted on 1/24/20 at 8:09 pm to AggieHank86
quote:oh my gosh. here we go
The pregnant woman is a sapient entity who clearly does have legal rights. The early-term fetus is a pre-sapient organism in which no legal rights have yet vested.
someone ask stank to define precisely when sapience is manifested in the baby or why sapience is the defining trait or what sapience actually is.
also, none of your goobledegook gives a person the right to murder another person for convenience
quote:how discrete. glad we got that nailed down. i see now how your position is so reasonable
As the fetus comes closer to term
Posted on 1/24/20 at 8:11 pm to DavidTheGnome
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I think the only people that need to be involved in that conversation is the woman and her doctor,
What about the father?
Posted on 1/24/20 at 8:15 pm to DavidTheGnome
quote:it is and you're wrong. it's convenience murder. i don't want the baby. throw it in the trash. whatever. just don't give it up for adoption. i would rather it be treated worse than we treat animals
I disagree that it’s murder
quote:who made them the moral authorities? no one.
the only people that need to be involved in that conversation is the woman and her doctor,
quote:well then you're just stupid and you really can't be helped
I also disagree with the idea that they are "babies"
quote:oh please. stop it. no one is arguing these cases. the question is the 95% of abortions where the mom can't be bothered with motherhood
If a woman’s life is in danger
quote:yeah we wouldn't want to defend the life of the baby now would we
The laws where she has to hear the heartbeat or listen to the doc say certain scripted things to shame her is ridiculous
quote:this is not a medical decision genius. it's a moral decision. the baby's right to life. i realize that's too complicated for you to understand.
make medical decisions for a woman
Posted on 1/24/20 at 8:34 pm to bfniii
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oh my gosh. here we go
someone ask stank to define precisely when sapience is manifested in the baby or why sapience is the defining trait or what sapience actually is.
Never mind the fact that if it’s ok to murder a “non sapient” human than its ok to murder someone undergoing surgery.
There is no logical argument that can not make abortion murder.
Posted on 1/24/20 at 8:42 pm to Adam Banks
his idiotic argument is that a non sapient fetus is essentially an animal and we don't have a problem killing animals. as i enumerated in my prior post, i have discovered that he doesn't even understand his own stupid argument. but then he can't refute that there is no personhood gap between offspring and parents.
Posted on 1/24/20 at 8:46 pm to Adam Banks
quote:oh trust me, i have brought this up multiple times. his position makes it ok to murder all sorts of people, i.e. euthanasia. i have pointed him to the sled test but he plays coy and acts like he doesn't know what it is. in one thread he resorted to criticizing vocabulary words i used that he hadn't heard of before.
its ok to murder someone undergoing surgery
hank is up there in the pantheon with ibchina and 90npc.
Posted on 1/24/20 at 9:12 pm to Elleshoe
He explained exactly what the difference is. Way to ignore it dipshit
Posted on 1/24/20 at 9:14 pm to DavidTheGnome
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If a woman’s life is in danger there’s no reason whatsoever she shouldn’t be allowed to save herself.
this is a complete strawman. No sane person argues this.
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