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re: Could some Dem please post what they are for
Posted on 12/1/25 at 4:42 am to PurpleCrush
Posted on 12/1/25 at 4:42 am to PurpleCrush
quote:Good for you, we’ll take these one at a time.
As an Independent
Points 1,2 and 5. All for, impossible to achieve without term limits for politicians. They profit hugely from every one of those, and won’t give up the millions they get paid to vote for them by the companies. Only way to maybe cut that down is make it too expensive by needing to buy a new senator every few years.
quote:Going to disagree. Golf is a good stress reliever and the cost is minimal considering.
No taxpayer spending for All Presidents Golfing. Remember he would be too busy, lol
quote:What is about killing children you think is a good thing? That’s what abortion is.
Restore Roe vs Wade for a woman's right to chose, and not decided by All old white men.
quote:Enforcing current law, what’s wrong about that? Cleaning up someone else’s mess was always going to be ugly.
Secure the Borders, as this was initially planned to make as law in a bipartisan fashion, now done by him(better now, just done wrongly)
quote:Thats being done by reducing inflation. If you assumed that meant actual costs overall were going to be lower, well you were just naive. Some costs are actually lower though (gas, eggs for example).
Improve housing, lower groceries(new word) and overall affordability.(He was to do on day 1)
quote:Short of blowing them up how do you expect that to happen? Frankly I’d quit wasting expense on Ukraine and let them figure out how to negotiate what they can get out of this.
No new wars, stay tuned Venezuela, End Ukrain war without giving Russia everything they want.
quote:Other than killing children you haven’t given a single substantial point I can see Democrats are actually for.
Geaux ahead and feast, you asked and as to why Republicans will lose the independent vote next.
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Posted on 12/1/25 at 5:12 am to uziyourillusion
quote:It isn’t realistically attainable.
Universal healthcare. Not necessarily through a Sanders style medicare for all expansion, but something realistically attainable.
quote:The department of education has been a failure since its inception. In the attempt to do just that because of the extreme inefficiency of federal government programs we have spent vastly more and gotten worse results. Block Grant what you’d waste back to the local level.
A strong Department of Education whose core mission is advancing literacy, mathematics, science, and the arts in schools across the country.
quote:One built western civilization, one is incompatible with it. Freedom of, not freedom from. You won’t like those who take the star and crescent option much.
Religion out of public schools. Exception would be studies that include all major religions. Want the cross and 10 commandments on the wall? Then the star and crescent is going right next to it. Take your pick.
quote:They do benefit all Americans. Those who can afford more get more benefit. As it should be.
AI can't be just a win for the wealthy, the benefits need to reach all Americans.
quote:This one is just flat stupid. It can’t be done with a “modest tax”. Costs would skyrocket since you are going to mandate it.
Universal higher education, whether that's college, trade school, beauty school, whatever. Fund it via a modest tax on corporations
quote:Giving the government more control over. Yeah that’ll work.
Reign in the control tech companies have over private data and online tracking of users.
quote:Who do you think is paying most of the taxes already? Want higher taxes on the producers? Who do you think they will pass those costs on to?
Higher taxes on the wealth in America. The gap has become so incredibly obscene and large.
quote:That’s funny. The company decides what is fair, who took the risk to start it in the first place? Did they get compensation for that risk at the start? Nope. If they mistreat their workers there’s plenty more companies who aren’t stupid who need them.
Some kind of tax structure that encourages or forces corporations to pay a fairer share of profits to employees.
quote:Why have a cutoff? If you’re for killing children at one point why not all points?
I support early-term abortions. I'm not entirely sure when the cutoff should be, but I'm very much against anything past several weeks at the most.
Posted on 12/1/25 at 5:44 am to llfshoals
Very succinct responses that I doubt will get an answer. You are knocking those ridiculous requests down with precision and politeness....something(courtesy) that I have not mastered.
Posted on 12/1/25 at 5:55 am to Houag80
quote:Oh I’m a real a-hole when I wanna be. I merely start this way to get them tossing out insults first.
politeness....something(courtesy) that I have not mastered.
Then I show them I’m better at that too.
Posted on 12/1/25 at 6:16 am to llfshoals
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It isn’t realistically attainable.
And yet, it's a reality in virtually industrialized nation on earth.
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A strong Department of Education whose core mission is advancing literacy, mathematics, science, and the arts in schools across the country.
Just because it's a failure in its current state doesn't mean it has to stay that way or always result in failure. China and plenty of other countries with superior results have a far more centralized structure than ours.
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One built western civilization, one is incompatible with it. Freedom of, not freedom from. You won’t like those who take the star and crescent option much.
Thankfully, SCOTUS largely disagrees with you.
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AI can't be just a win for the wealthy, the benefits need to reach all Americans.
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This one is just flat stupid. It can’t be done with a “modest tax”. Costs would skyrocket since you are going to mandate it.
It's done all across Europe and elsewhere, at a fraction of our tuition rates.
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Giving the government more control over. Yeah that’ll work.
Limiting corporate power != giving government control
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Who do you think is paying most of the taxes already? Want higher taxes on the producers? Who do you think they will pass those costs on to?
Wasn't the inverse of this the argument for lowering the corporate tax rate? We were suppose to get much higher raises, lower costs of goods, and corporations returning to America. We didn't get that with the corporate tax cut. Put it back on at the minimum.
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Why have a cutoff? If you’re for killing children at one point why not all points?
Because it isnt a child yet.
Have a blessed morning.
This post was edited on 12/1/25 at 6:21 am
Posted on 12/1/25 at 6:52 am to uziyourillusion
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I support LGBTQ rights, gay marriage, and affirmation.
What do you mean by affirmation...
I only ask because it could be at odds with.
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This doesn't mean adding it to k-12 curricula, certainly not at the federal level.
Very impossible to force something to be affirmed but keep it out of schools.
Also do you want to clarify
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Because it isnt a child yet.
Thats not true biologically, only legally.
DNA says it's human, and its biologically alive.
If the law said humans arent children until their first birthday would it be ok until then?
Cause you know... Sparta...
This post was edited on 12/1/25 at 6:57 am
Posted on 12/1/25 at 7:07 am to Narax
Frankly, I don’t care that’s it’s in K-12, but I am cognizant of the fact it riles up enough people to cause enough blow back that’s it’s probably doing more harm for the cause than good. Affirmation doesn’t need to exist solely within the context of a classroom. That said, I’m all for teaching students that homosexuality is naturally occurring and nothing to be ashamed of. And like with any immutable quality, shouldn’t be a basis for hate. The 52 genders, furries, transitioning, etc stuff can all take a hike.
Posted on 12/1/25 at 7:10 am to uziyourillusion
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Frankly, I don’t care that’s it’s in K-12, but I am cognizant of the fact it riles up enough people to cause enough blow back that’s it’s probably doing more harm for the cause than good.
Once you decide any lifestyle should be affirmed you cant keep it out of the classroom.
You are either in or out.
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Affirmation doesn’t need to exist solely within the context of a classroom.
Still unsure what you mean by that.
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And like with any immutable quality
So if it wasn't an immutable quality like you believe then it shouldn't be affirmed?
Posted on 12/1/25 at 7:17 am to uziyourillusion
quote:Name one you think it does and I’ll show you why it isn’t.
And yet, it's a reality in virtually industrialized nation on earth.
quote:I think the Chinese serfs would disagree with you. Serf sounds better than slave, right? You really seem to like authoritarian regimes, why is that?
China and plenty of other countries with superior results have a far more centralized structure than ours.
quote:Except they don’t. You can’t teach religion as a philosophy, you can teach history however.
Thankfully, SCOTUS largely disagrees with you.
quote:Which are smaller, and less diverse. Nit to mention getting poorer results. Where again does most of the world’s innovation and highest productivity come from?
It's done all across Europe and elsewhere, at a fraction of our tuition rates.
quote:how do you limit it? With more government control. There isn’t another way.
Limiting corporate power != giving government control
quote:Who has the highest standard of living? Oh yeah, us. We didn’t do a good job of protecting our manufacturing though I’ll give you that.
Wasn't the inverse of this the argument for lowering the corporate tax rate? We were suppose to get much higher raises, lower costs of goods, and corporations returning to America.
quote:It’s impossible to be anything else. A is A
Because it isnt a child yet.
Posted on 12/1/25 at 7:18 am to Narax
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Still unsure what you mean by that.
I'm saying you don't or shouldn't only receive affirmation in school. You should be able to receive it from your parents, siblings, workplace, etc. Doesn't have to manifest as rainbow parades, but just a quiet acceptance like anyone else receives. No more or less.
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So if it wasn't an immutable quality like you believe then it shouldn't be affirmed?
Not at all, it's just an easier argument to make when a quality isn't a choice. I'm very much open to people living any kind of lifestyle they want as consenting adults.
Posted on 12/1/25 at 7:21 am to PurpleCrush
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Restore Roe vs Wade for a woman's right to chose, and not decided by All old white men.
Ok, but then when it comes to laws that impact me no coloreds or women have a say.
Posted on 12/1/25 at 7:28 am to uziyourillusion
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Doesn't have to manifest as rainbow parades, but just a quiet acceptance like anyone else receives. No more or less.
So everyone has to accept homosexual and trans behavior?
Or just homosexual behavior?
There is a massive difference in the two.
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Not at all, it's just an easier argument to make when a quality isn't a choice. I'm very much open to people living any kind of lifestyle they want as consenting adults.
So what do you have against furries? Lol.
You seem to be saying all lifestyles have to be equally accepted... in public?
This post was edited on 12/1/25 at 7:32 am
Posted on 12/1/25 at 7:47 am to Narax
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You seem to be saying all lifestyles have to be equally accepted... in public?
No, because he already said this:
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The 52 genders, furries, transitioning, etc stuff can all take a hike.
What he's saying is that he's fine with society reflecting moral values, they just need to be his values and not yours.
Posted on 12/1/25 at 7:57 am to Narax
I’m not for making anyone accept anything. I would just hope acceptance would eventually come naturally to everyone. Straight or gay. Trans is a difficult topic when it comes to people with legitimate deeply rooted gender dysphoria. Personally, I don’t mind placating them to a particular point. I don’t support trans people in sports outside of their biological gender, same with the bathroom thing. Admittedly, I don’t know much about the topic. Hopefully, better treatments will arrive to help them be comfortable with their biological gender.
No issues with furries doing whatever it is the hell they do all day lol.
There’s a hard line between orientation and lifestyle. Homosexuality is an orientation, being a furry is a kink. If they want to dress as squirrels in public, I really don’t care.
No issues with furries doing whatever it is the hell they do all day lol.
There’s a hard line between orientation and lifestyle. Homosexuality is an orientation, being a furry is a kink. If they want to dress as squirrels in public, I really don’t care.
Posted on 12/1/25 at 8:28 am to uziyourillusion
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I’m not for making anyone accept anything. I would just hope acceptance would eventually come naturally to everyone.
The reason I ask is because children are not capable of making decisions.
They cant vote, drink, join the military, drive, serve on a jury, smoke, consent, or own a gun, as well as many other things.
Once you introduce a topic to schools in a positive way, you are removing a choice for them in the future, just as you dont want them being indoctrinated by religion in a public school(nor do I).
Thats why its important if it is indeed immutable from birth, if it is, then there would be no harm in introducing it, as they will be what they will be.
But if it is not, then by introducing it into schools, you will make children who do not have the mental facilities to understand, adopt that behavior.
Same as religion, if you raise all kids to be religious, there will be way more religious people.
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Hopefully, better treatments will arrive to help them be comfortable with their biological gender.
I agree, it is unhealthy to reject one's physical reality, if they want to dress like women fine, but once they start thinking they are something other than their biology it leads to severe mental problems.
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Homosexuality is an orientation, being a furry is a kink.
I would nudge you in the direction that all dopamine reactions become an orientation, as the human body craves dopamine, be it from opioids, or sex.
Its a powerful drug, and once ones reward functions become associated with certain ways of getting that hit, it becomes harder and harder to separate choice from addiction.
Porn addiction is no less powerful for many.
Its our biological function to be addicted to procreation, but our brain doesn't care what causes the reward.
Hence why I personally do not think people have a native sexuality when born, why studies have failed to find it.
Why animals also exhibit such behavior.
Because at the end we are all Pavlov's dog, getting hooked on whatever reward function comes our way.
Of course Pavlov's dog could no longer choose to not drool for the bell, even if he was not born that way.
Posted on 12/1/25 at 8:40 am to Marquesa
quote:
Could some Dem please post what they are for
A single-party, Marxist welfare state.
/thread
Posted on 12/1/25 at 8:48 am to Marquesa
quote:
Could some Dem please post what they are for
If you are serious about this…
Read this book by two Dems who set out a platform for their party
Posted on 12/1/25 at 9:50 am to Marquesa
They want a Star Trek Universe. Never gonna happen.
This post was edited on 12/1/25 at 9:51 am
Posted on 12/1/25 at 9:51 am to BuckI
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Universal health care
Strong law enforcement
Balanced Budgets
All employees receive a living wage
Free college education for all medical, education, and engineering students, and veterans.
Housing for the elderly, disabled, and veterans
Higher taxes on the rich
Sensible tariff rates
Open borders
You could just say "populism" and be done with it.
Posted on 12/1/25 at 11:32 am to llfshoals
Those are all of your heavily biased takes, I disagree with the defenses of each, so what
Not gonna debate your opinions.
His approval ratings and hiding stats bc they are bad, making money golfing is not exercise.etc.
I just stated how most dems and alot of independent thinking is.
Good luck in the midterms, love him while you got him. Others suffer from him. You like that, im sure. Did you get the phone you ordered from China yet?
Not gonna debate your opinions.
His approval ratings and hiding stats bc they are bad, making money golfing is not exercise.etc.
I just stated how most dems and alot of independent thinking is.
Good luck in the midterms, love him while you got him. Others suffer from him. You like that, im sure. Did you get the phone you ordered from China yet?
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