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re: Conservative atheists need to accept this truth.
Posted on 2/25/20 at 8:41 am to WorkinDawg
Posted on 2/25/20 at 8:41 am to WorkinDawg
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I'm curious as to who these thriving non-Christian nations are?
The Roman Empire comes to mind. Thriving economically and militarily and even civically to an extent.
But of course it was a treacherous, evil empire in many many ways and for many epochs. My only point is, success as a nation in no way requires Christianity. It is a misreading of the Bible to think otherwise.
However, on the other hand, Christianity has had a profoundly positive effect on human rights throughout the world. That is simply undeniable.
I want to participate in this discussion more, but I really can't today.
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Posted on 2/25/20 at 8:42 am to Powerman
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Japan
South Korea
Qatar
Singapore
Estonia
Hong Kong
Israel
You don't have to look very hard to find them
All of those nations are doing just fine. But none would be what they are without the good ole USA. Japan the least of which, but we rebuilt that nation after WWII.
Posted on 2/25/20 at 8:53 am to WorkinDawg
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Japan the least of which, but we rebuilt that nation after WWII.
What the frick?
First of all, you were wrong and you should just concede the point and move on.
Second, it was the "good ole USA" that destroyed Japan. This is some warped reasoning, man.
Posted on 2/25/20 at 9:03 am to BoarEd
quote:Won’t happen. Jingos gonna jingo.quote:you were wrong and you should just concede the point and move on.
Japan the least of which, but we rebuilt that nation after WWII.
Japan was a prosperous nation and important regional power BEFORE World War Two. We simply helped them back to their feet as a counterbalance to the USSR. We picked them rather than the Chinese precisely BECAUSE they were already a successful nation-state.
This post was edited on 2/25/20 at 9:09 am
Posted on 2/25/20 at 9:03 am to Parmen
Why do conservative atheists have to accept anything? What does belief in small government and personal responsibility have to do with your brand of religion?
Calculus was developed in large part by an Islamic mathematician. Should Christian mathematicians change what they accept?
Calculus was developed in large part by an Islamic mathematician. Should Christian mathematicians change what they accept?
Posted on 2/25/20 at 9:06 am to Wtodd
quote:I usually said something scatological.
Conservative atheists ... Don't exist.....ask everyone that claims to be this what they did immediately prior to getting a no notice quiz in school/college OR got pulled over by a cop OR went to a job interview....they prayed.
Posted on 2/25/20 at 9:16 am to BoarEd
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maybe y'all's churches should start having some in-house debates and start coming up with ways to rebrand your message that doesn't turn people off to what you're saying.
Like many mainline denominations have done and continue to do? Cast overboard any and all unpleasant doctrines and practices that don't pander to the culture's eroding morals and replace them with a focus group tested message that is neither Christian or gospel. How are the denominations that have taken that approach doing?
Posted on 2/25/20 at 9:24 am to Powerman
quote:
Japan
South Korea
Qatar
Singapore
Estonia
Hong Kong
Israel
You can also throw in
New Zealand
Netherlands
India
This post was edited on 2/25/20 at 9:25 am
Posted on 2/25/20 at 9:25 am to Mr. Misanthrope
Not my job to figure it out for them. 
Posted on 2/25/20 at 9:26 am to WorkinDawg
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But none would be what they are without the good ole USA. Japan the least of which,
Japan might be a lot more ridiculous than they are now if it weren't for us impeding their imperialism
Posted on 2/25/20 at 9:29 am to BoarEd
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Second, it was the "good ole USA" that destroyed Japan.
Which was well on their way to being a major world power at the time if we didn't get in their way
Posted on 2/25/20 at 9:29 am to Parmen
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The day Christian values aren't held by a majority of the people of this country, we are doomed.
As per the prophecy.
Posted on 2/25/20 at 9:40 am to Parmen
Christian values is one kind of social contract.
a lot of people go to a non-fundementalist church when they have kids in.order to fold the kids into society
the huge problem you have is the religion has to be more than a social contract for teenagers and young adults to bother to go
you can read spectacular criticisms on td of the key premises of judeo-christianity.
nonsense about selling daughter into slavery if she backtalks you.
myths with precisely matching stories in other cultures.
anthropomorphic Father-God.
"You cant keep them down on the farm once they've seen paris."
a lot of people go to a non-fundementalist church when they have kids in.order to fold the kids into society
the huge problem you have is the religion has to be more than a social contract for teenagers and young adults to bother to go
you can read spectacular criticisms on td of the key premises of judeo-christianity.
nonsense about selling daughter into slavery if she backtalks you.
myths with precisely matching stories in other cultures.
anthropomorphic Father-God.
"You cant keep them down on the farm once they've seen paris."
This post was edited on 2/25/20 at 9:50 am
Posted on 2/25/20 at 9:43 am to BoarEd
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People don't like being told they're doomed to hell. It's off putting.
Off putting, but apparently not so troublesome as to cause people to seek out and avail themselves of the means of rescue and escape.
People want to be able to choose to go over a cliff and not be warned of the danger or how to avoid it.
If Christians refuse to share that off putting message, they've got those persons' blood on their hands. Rightly so.
Ezekiel 3:18-21
Posted on 2/25/20 at 9:45 am to BoarEd
quote:
Not my job to figure it out for them.
True and fair enough.
Posted on 2/25/20 at 9:47 am to AggieHank86
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I usually said something scatological
Probably but then you prayed.
The next time you post a word I have to look up, I'm RAing your arse with quickness.
Posted on 2/25/20 at 9:47 am to Parmen
We need to return to traditional values (God, family, country). That model worked and it worked well for centuries. The decline in this country began with the introduction of the Birth Control Pill, quickened with the Roe v Wade decision by SCOTUS and continues today.
It remains to be seen if we can turn this mess around. I hope so. My poor grandchildren and great grandchildren.
It remains to be seen if we can turn this mess around. I hope so. My poor grandchildren and great grandchildren.
This post was edited on 2/25/20 at 9:51 am
Posted on 2/25/20 at 9:50 am to GeorgePaton
quote:
We need to return to traditional values (God, family, country). That model worked and it worked well for centuries.
Things are better now than they have been in a long time
At what point in our country's history do you think we were better off than now?
Posted on 2/25/20 at 9:51 am to Wtodd
quote:
The next time you post a word I have to look up, I'm RAing your arse with quickness.
intentional ignorance, the bastion of fundamentalism
Posted on 2/25/20 at 9:56 am to Wtodd
quote:Vocabulary enhancement ... just one of the services Hank provides.
The next time you post a word I have to look up, I'm RAing your arse with quickness.
EDIT:
Most profanity falls into one of three categories: religious, sexual or scatological.
This post was edited on 2/25/20 at 10:01 am
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