re: Conservative atheists need to accept this truth.

There's nothing wrong with the Ten Commandments. They're actually not even Jewish Values if we are being honest. They are God's Spiritual Law. They have existed since before the dawn of man and will exist after man is gone. From a scriptural standpoint the Ten Commandments are as immutable as the Law of Gravity. They have always been. The Christians can't claim them as their own because the Jews had them first. And they predate the Jews too.

But that isn't what this thread is about. This thread is about a claim that once Christians lose a majority in this country that we are doomed and it's pure nonsense.

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This thread is about a claim that once Christians lose a majority in this country that we are doomed and it's pure nonsense.

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Chalk it up as being literally the exact same as threads where people opine about whites no longer being the majority in the country as if that will doom us also.

They're talking out their arse. These people don't even comprehend how offensive their dumbshit proclamations are. If they did they wouldn't make them. Well, not if they considered themselves Christians anyways. They're supposed to love their neighbors.

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The OP says specifically that we are doomed in the absences of Christian values

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Again, for the sake of discussion, please define these so-called "Christian Values."

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Again, for the sake of discussion, please define these so-called "Christian Values."

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Frick Ed, I already did that, and you responded to the dam post. Not going to do it again.

The point is you can't define them. Because they don't belong to the Christians. I already explained that.

When the OP cites the decline of the Christian Church he is claiming the erosion of these so-called "Christian Values", but these laws you want to cite are God's Spiritual Law. They exist in one form or another in all religions.

So what he is really saying is that when we no longer hold a Christian majority in this nation we are doomed. There is no other way to read it.

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you think it would be OK to ignore Christian values?

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Most Christians do.

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Lets not even get into an all powerful being that cant get by without me sending him money.

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Do you honestly think that is the point of tithing?

Let me try to put it a different way. Maybe I wasn't clear in my thoughts.

You cannot define "Christian Values" as a set of values distinguishable from any other set of religious values. If you can, let's see it.

And as such, there is no reason to call upon "Christian Values" at all other than the fact that you guys consider yourselves Christian. It's a slander to every other set of values to claim yours should be granted preference above theirs.

This country was founded on Christian ideals? Nonsense. The OP himself went on to claim the ten commandments and a statue of Moses as evidence of this. Again, those would be Jewish Values brought to us by a Jewish prophet.

I'm not the one twisting shite here. I'm calling it like it is.

So what does that leave us with? His claim that the declining numbers of Christians are evidence that we are losing our "Christian Values" that he can't even name.

Oh, there was also the National Moto. "In God We Trust." Again, not a Christian value. All religions claim a God. It's one of the prerequisites of having a religion to begin with. It doesn't say, "in the Christian God we trust."

This entire thread amounts to someone bitching that Christianity's numbers are on the decline and claiming that we are "doomed" when the Christians lose a majority.

Of course, so now we are going to "expand" them to Western Values once the error was pointed out in calling them Christian Values.

Got it.

Nonsense. Every damn one of these religious threads that gets started is nonsensical.