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re: Conservative, adult entertainer Brandi Love kicked out of Turning Point USA event tonight

Posted on 7/19/21 at 10:20 am to
Posted by Seldom Seen
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Posted on 7/19/21 at 10:20 am to
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This only works if we ignore the past 5 years and how Trump is the new conservative movement. Which is it?




I don't believe TRUMP has ever claimed to be a conservative TRUMP is a nationalist. So Brandi can be a nationalist like TRUMP she just can't be a conservative.


Really the label of conservative has been so muddled at this point that I'm not sure anyone really wants that label anyway.
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 7/19/21 at 10:20 am to
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the larger part is that Jesus's example was not to shun the immoral and to include them



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Mark 2:17

On hearing this, Jesus said to them, “It is not the healthy who need a doctor, but the sick. I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners.”
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 7/19/21 at 10:22 am to
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I don't believe TRUMP has ever claimed to be a conservative

I'm talking about his fans, who have 100% claimed him as a conservative.

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Really the label of conservative has been so muddled at this point that I'm not sure anyone really wants that label anyway.

I literally posted a thread I made a few weeks ago about that topic.
Posted by Esquire
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Posted on 7/19/21 at 10:22 am to
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It generally doesn't rank sin, like some buzzfeed article


So why is Brandi’s sin so much worse than Trump’s multiple sins?
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 7/19/21 at 10:23 am to
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So why is Brandi’s sin so much worse than Trump’s multiple sins?

They aren't.

They aren't worse than mine, either.

Or yours
Posted by Esquire
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Posted on 7/19/21 at 10:25 am to
So why is she getting banned?
Posted by GEAUXmedic
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Posted on 7/19/21 at 10:25 am to
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They can do what they want within the constraints of the law. If there are people attending a Turning Point event that don’t fit the Christian values that the typical Turning Point attendees subscribe to why would you be associating with those people?


So a private entity can control who uses their platform? Interesting...
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 7/19/21 at 10:26 am to
Because Turning Point hates all controversy it can't directly profit from, via merchandise or "donations".

They are scumbags

My eyes were open when they tried to monetize Kanye against his will.
This post was edited on 7/19/21 at 10:28 am
Posted by Pettifogger
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Posted on 7/19/21 at 10:38 am to
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So why is she getting banned?



Because most of her public existence is centered on promoting sinful behavior?

Or at least that's the most reasonable argument for what TPUSA did. I'm not going to pretend it's a well-run entity but giving the benefit of the doubt that their stance was principled here, that's what I'd say.
Posted by Cosmo
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Posted on 7/19/21 at 10:41 am to
Im assuming she was treating this event like the AVN awards, dressed like a pornstar and trying to sell her onlyfans page

If she showed up like a normal attendee probably no issue
Posted by Esquire
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Posted on 7/19/21 at 10:45 am to
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Because most of her public existence is centered on promoting sinful behavior?


So Trump pre 2016?
Posted by blueridgeTiger
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Posted on 7/19/21 at 10:57 am to
The videos of her home schooling her sons and daughters should be an inspiration to all.
Posted by Pettifogger
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Posted on 7/19/21 at 11:00 am to
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So Trump pre 2016?



If you're trying to catch some hardcore Trump supporter in a corner I think you'll need to find another poster

But no, Trump's entire persona pre 2016 was not based on sinful behavior. Your response will be, predictably "greed." I agree, Trump is probably a greedy person. But capitalism =/= sinful greed, so there is gray area as to where Trump's opulence and greed become sinful and incompatible with Christianity.

But all that said, the conservative embrace of Trump is absolutely vulnerable to attack.
Posted by Esquire
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Posted on 7/19/21 at 11:01 am to
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Trump's entire persona pre 2016 was not based on sinful behavior.


No fault divorces are a sin.
Posted by Pettifogger
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Posted on 7/19/21 at 11:05 am to
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No fault divorces are a sin.



Was he a no fault divorce attorney? I think you can credibly make the argument that conservatives wedding themselves to Trump was problematic and hypocritical. I don't think you're doing a very good job of it with these examples.
Posted by DemonKA3268
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Posted on 7/19/21 at 11:07 am to
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You can't spell hypocrite w/o Conservative.


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Yeah, liberals are surely the gold standard of being principled


Amazing how totally clueless that idiot is.

I'm surprised they kicked her out but it is what it is.
Posted by DemonKA3268
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Posted on 7/19/21 at 11:08 am to
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The videos of her home schooling her sons and daughters should be an inspiration to all.


And her massaging a girl with her boyfriend as well.
Posted by Esquire
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Posted on 7/19/21 at 11:08 am to
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Was he a no fault divorce attorney?


What? He was the multiple divorcée. Brandi didn’t direct her own porns
Posted by LSUSkip
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Posted on 7/19/21 at 11:14 am to
I'm gonna show support by watching her vids tonight.
Posted by Pettifogger
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Posted on 7/19/21 at 11:15 am to
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What? He was the multiple divorcée. Brandi didn’t direct her own porns



The point is her entire persona and career were in the sin. She likely spent the better part of her days promoting said sin. I suspect she did direct or manage some of her films, but not really my point.

This isn't true for Trump and divorce. It might be for Trump and greed, but I think that's a trickier case to make.

Trump being a divorcee means he's a sinner, no different than someone who consumes porn. But that is different than making your identity about those things. People can be divorced and claim divorce is a sin and seek repentance. You can't be in the industry of divorce and do that credibly. You can't be a pornographer or porn star and say "it's a sin and I reject it" if you get up and push it on people every day.
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