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re: Confessions of a Public Defender

Posted on 12/29/14 at 4:44 pm to
Posted by Chappy
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Posted on 12/29/14 at 4:44 pm to
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do not believe for a second he is liberal tho



why do you say this?

I have a lot of respect for almost all of the public defenders I have had dealings with

they have an almost impossible job, but they all most certainly have been liberal

I don't think a conservative public defender would last long
Posted by Zach
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Posted on 12/29/14 at 4:45 pm to
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I do not believe for a second he is liberal tho

Hawk, I think he could have been one of those liberals who was transformed. We all know the old cliche... a liberal becomes a conservative when he gets mugged.
I think this guy actually started out as a wide eyed liberal and became disenchanted with the experience of being a public defender.
Posted by Navytiger74
Member since Oct 2009
50458 posts
Posted on 12/29/14 at 4:46 pm to
So this guy dealt almost exclusively with major felons, yet decided that he was in a position to generalize about 10s of millions of people.

Well at least it fits this board's stupid narrative.
Posted by FT
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Member since Oct 2003
26925 posts
Posted on 12/29/14 at 4:47 pm to
Isn't it breathtaking that Zach asked me to prove that that nonsense was racist?
Posted by Zach
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117498 posts
Posted on 12/29/14 at 4:47 pm to
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Science involves proper sampling. It isn't science, its anecdote.

Oh, there's lot's of science behind it. Let's take issue ONE... reasoning. IQ. Blacks are 15 points lower. Want to counter that?
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
62072 posts
Posted on 12/29/14 at 4:48 pm to
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She chopped a man to death with an axe. She testified that she had an orgasm with each chop. I know there is a debate about vaginal and clitoris but I've never heard about axe to the head orgasms.



I'm vaguely familiar with this case, but I don't think she asked God to bless her while she was committing these acts, but this was more a conversion after the fact?
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 12/29/14 at 4:49 pm to
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I do not believe for a second he is liberal tho


Considering the site the column is written on appears to be a white supremacist site, I don't think the writer was an actual public defender.
Posted by Navytiger74
Member since Oct 2009
50458 posts
Posted on 12/29/14 at 4:50 pm to
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In my life I've found all of those observations to be true. If that's racism so be it. I call it science.


For the record, I've always considered you to be something of an affable old clown with just a tablespoon of good old fashioned racism.

You're like Archie Bunker, except I can't be amused by the faces you make (because I can't see them).
Posted by FT
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Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 12/29/14 at 4:50 pm to
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Let's take issue ONE... reasoning. IQ. Blacks are 15 points lower.
Link?
Posted by Hawkeye95
Member since Dec 2013
20293 posts
Posted on 12/29/14 at 4:51 pm to
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why do you say this?


Just looking at the web site and reading the article. plus this is his definition
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I believe that those of us who are able to produce abundance have a moral duty to provide basic food, shelter, and medical care for those who cannot care for themselves.

just sounds like someone who is compassionate.

eta: and the site who looks to be pretty damn racist.
This post was edited on 12/29/14 at 4:52 pm
Posted by AbuTheMonkey
Chicago, IL
Member since May 2014
8639 posts
Posted on 12/29/14 at 4:51 pm to
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i am pretty liberal and its definitely racist.

At least he has first hand, relevant experience for him to make these broad generalizations off of. I am sure his job is very difficult, so I will give him a pass.

I do not believe for a second he is liberal tho


I would gander that (if this guy is real) he probably started off fairly liberal. I don't know very many conservative public defenders.
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
117498 posts
Posted on 12/29/14 at 4:51 pm to
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sn't it breathtaking that Zach asked me to prove that that nonsense was racist?


You haven't proved it. You merely assert it. Let's look at it another way, FT. Suppose the issue is not 'is the link racist'. Suppose the issue is 'is the link TRUE.'?

The only defense of this proposition so far is that it is a generalization. So what? Generalizations are abundant in science. Generally, rattle snakes are more dangerous than squirrels.

But you might get bitten by a squirrel tonight and get rabies.
Posted by lsu480
Downtown Scottsdale
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 12/29/14 at 4:52 pm to
The author nails it!
Posted by Bard
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Member since Oct 2008
59134 posts
Posted on 12/29/14 at 4:53 pm to
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yeah, like I said, I think he is only talking about those people he has come across, which is the criminal element, which is a very small percentage of the entire black population


I agree, but the way he presents it in many parts is like he is attaching those behaviors to all blacks. My take-away from this is that his life as a public defender has opened his eyes to the plight of the poor, black communities and his newfound knowledge has turned into resentment that sometimes spills over from only those he has directly dealt with to the entire black population in the US.

I'm far from the first person to cry "racism" but it's not hard to find (and even easier to infer) from this piece.
Posted by Hawkeye95
Member since Dec 2013
20293 posts
Posted on 12/29/14 at 4:54 pm to
Generally old white people are racist fricks. i know this based off my interactions with old white people.

Its fricking science man!
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
117498 posts
Posted on 12/29/14 at 4:55 pm to
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I'm vaguely familiar with this case, but I don't think she asked God to bless her while she was committing these acts, but this was more a conversion after the fact?


She converted in prison before she was executed. The MSM used this against George Bush who was Gov of Texas and could have pardoned her. Everyone knew Bush was going to run for Prez.

The MSM had the perfect trap: If Bush pardons her he is 'soft on crime'. If Bush doesn't it's 'war on women' and he's 'not a Christian.'

Bush fooled them. "I forgive her. I hope God forgives her. Let the execution go ahead."

Posted by gaetti15
AK
Member since Apr 2013
15271 posts
Posted on 12/29/14 at 4:55 pm to
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Racism: the belief that all members of each race possess characteristics or abilities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races.
Posted by Navytiger74
Member since Oct 2009
50458 posts
Posted on 12/29/14 at 4:55 pm to
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Isn't it breathtaking that Zach asked me to prove that that nonsense was racist?


Lols. Well Sentius mentioned a couple weeks ago that I was due for my PB hiatus. I think this'll do it. The PB really came into its own since all of the nonsense with the police started.

Cheers.
Posted by FT
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Member since Oct 2003
26925 posts
Posted on 12/29/14 at 4:56 pm to
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You haven't proved it. You merely assert it.
It's racist by definition. I'm not going to bother getting a definition for you; you'll just disagree with the definition.

I mean, it's cool. You're a racist. That's fine. Just don't get all persnickety when someone "plays the race card" on you. They're not just playing a card if you're actually racist.
Posted by Chappy
G-Town
Member since Jul 2007
3458 posts
Posted on 12/29/14 at 4:56 pm to
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I believe that those of us who are able to produce abundance have a moral duty to provide basic food, shelter, and medical care for those who cannot care for themselves.

just sounds like someone who is compassionate.


but then he says this

quote:

I believe we have this duty even to those who can care for themselves but don’t.


which is very liberal

however I can't help but get the feeling he just wanted to rant against black defendants and then added that at the end to claim he is liberal
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