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re: Common sense solution to the abortion problem
Posted on 5/17/19 at 4:23 pm to imjustafatkid
Posted on 5/17/19 at 4:23 pm to imjustafatkid
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Ridiculous.
Anyone who wants to get an abortion does not want to raise a kid or is unable to raise a kid (at that time).
Unwanted kids turn into problem kids, who turn into criminals.
Kids born to women with no father figure are destined to have more problems.
Kids born to women who can't afford them will likely need at least 18 years of welfare assistance.
The fiscally prudent choice, and the fiscally conservative choice, is to allow abortion, while trying to encourage women to not get knocked up unless they are ready to do so.
I'm sorry if the truth makes you uncomfortable. If you don't believe me, check this out
Freakomics economists supports me
Posted on 5/17/19 at 4:23 pm to Esquire
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But if we don’t stop minorities from having unwanted kids, how are we going to complain about supporting the welfare state?
Maybe if we stop supporting illegal immigrants we can afford it
Posted on 5/17/19 at 4:24 pm to Usafgiles
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I guess the silver lining for you in that scenario is poor, white, uneducated people tend to be Republicans.
And poor, black, uneducated people tend to be Democrats.
Probably about the same on each side
Posted on 5/17/19 at 4:24 pm to Usafgiles
It’s not even tempting to engage you further.
Posted on 5/17/19 at 4:25 pm to HempHead
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However, it is entirely possible to create social mores and pressures that alleviate the negative outcomes of human lust.
You can do that, and still support abortion for the "ones that slip through"
Posted on 5/17/19 at 4:25 pm to LSUFanHouston
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LSUFanHouston
You've successfully argued for the killing of all people that are drains on society. Congratulations
Posted on 5/17/19 at 4:25 pm to LSUFanHouston
Yea but I'm not arguing to increase the rate of birth for unwanted pregnancies.
Posted on 5/17/19 at 4:27 pm to LSUFanHouston
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fiscally prudent choice, and the fiscally conservative choice
Using that same argument, it would be much more fiscally prudent to shoot every person in Stage 6 dementia or beyond.
Posted on 5/17/19 at 4:28 pm to GoCrazyAuburn
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Not all would be aborted babies would be thugs or drains on society either.
If one out of 100 was, it would still be cheaper to abort. And we both know it turns out to be a lot more than one out of 100.
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You're basically arguing that in order to be a fiscal conservative, that belief trumps all other moral beliefs. It is an absolutely absurd assertion to make.
A fiscal conservative cares about finances and money 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, etc.
So that's EXACTLY what I'm saying.
This is why not a lot of people are real fiscal conservatives, despite claiming to do so.
This is why no matter what party is in control of government, our fiscal situation gets worse and worse.
Again, sorry if I hit a nerve.
Posted on 5/17/19 at 4:28 pm to Usafgiles
We all know you’re a giant piece of shite. No need to make the implicit explicit. Leave some of it to our imagination.
Posted on 5/17/19 at 4:29 pm to LSUFanHouston
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Anyone who wants to get an abortion does not want to raise a kid or is unable to raise a kid (at that time).
Unwanted kids turn into problem kids, who turn into criminals.
Kids born to women with no father figure are destined to have more problems.
Kids born to women who can't afford them will likely need at least 18 years of welfare assistance.
The fiscally prudent choice, and the fiscally conservative choice, is to allow abortion, while trying to encourage women to not get knocked up unless they are ready to do so.
I'm sorry if the truth makes you uncomfortable. If you don't believe me, check this out
You could be for an end to abortion and reform of entiltment and discretionary social spending. A blanket generalization like the above is really dumb.
Posted on 5/17/19 at 4:30 pm to GoCrazyAuburn
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You've successfully argued for the killing of all people that are drains on society. Congratulations
So there is no difference between someone who worked from age 22 - 70 and needs help at the end of life,
and a kid/"mom" who are on the government tit before the baby pops out?
Posted on 5/17/19 at 4:30 pm to LSUFanHouston
Fiscal conservatism would prohibit the means by which those people can become a drain on the public coffer, which again brings up a possible policy point which would greatly reduce the problem without having to take a direct action.
Posted on 5/17/19 at 4:30 pm to LSUFanHouston
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If one out of 100 was, it would still be cheaper to abort. And we both know it turns out to be a lot more than one out of 100.
So, as long as it would be cheaper for society to end someone's life, you are okay with it?
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A fiscal conservative cares about finances and money 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, etc.
So that's EXACTLY what I'm saying.
This is why not a lot of people are real fiscal conservatives, despite claiming to do so.
This is why no matter what party is in control of government, our fiscal situation gets worse and worse.
Fiscal conservatism still operates within a boundary of one's morals.
You've seriously just argued that the only way to be a fiscal conservative is if you are morally okay with genocide.
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Again, sorry if I hit a nerve.
It's not a nerve, i'm just astounded i'm reading an actual opinion of a person that is okay with genocide as long as it is the fiscally most cost effective route.
Posted on 5/17/19 at 4:32 pm to the808bass
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Using that same argument, it would be much more fiscally prudent to shoot every person in Stage 6 dementia or beyond
No.
Using that same argument, it would be much more fiscally prudent to allow every person in Stage 6 dementia or beyond to end their life if that is what they woudl have wanted
I'm not saying we need forced abortions. I'm saying abortion helps the fisc. And so would assisted suicide.
Posted on 5/17/19 at 4:32 pm to LSUFanHouston
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So there is no difference between someone who worked from age 22 - 70 and needs help at the end of life,
On day 70 in an LTAC? Probably not financially.
Posted on 5/17/19 at 4:32 pm to LSUFanHouston
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So there is no difference between someone who worked from age 22 - 70 and needs help at the end of life,
Sure there is a difference, until they become a drain on society, no? As a fiscal conservative, you've stated that the most cost effective option is the one you take. A drain is a drain, no?
Posted on 5/17/19 at 4:33 pm to LSUFanHouston
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Using that same argument, it would be much more fiscally prudent to allow every person in Stage 6 dementia or beyond to end their life if that is what they woudl have wanted
No. You’re now allowing for morals in the question which you’re conveniently disallowing in the abortion question. It’s not whether or not they concur. Fiscally, it’s cheaper to shoot them all. Sorry if that offends you.
Posted on 5/17/19 at 4:33 pm to BlackAdam
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You could be for an end to abortion and reform of entiltment and discretionary social spending. A blanket generalization like the above is really dumb.
You and I both know that will never happen. Quit hanging on to fantasies. No one really wants to end that, because they are scared AF as to what will happen to their power when people get truly hungry and scared.
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