re: Common sense solution to the abortion problem

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So, as a small government fiscal conservative, the government is partly responsible for the determination that your life is now your life? That makes sense. I mean expanding on your logic, if the umbilical cord has not been cut, the baby is still part of the mother. Should just be able to still kill it since it is not its own individual quite yet.

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You asked me what I thought the point was when a life is a life.

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ETA: I know i'm taking this to the logical extreme here,

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You are taking it to the extreme, but way past logical.

Why would a woman go 39 or 35 or whatever weeks, go through all that entails, get in the room, and right as the baby is about to come out, while the mama is hooked up on drugs and wires etc, jumps up, pushes everyone out of the way, grabs a knife or scissors and starts stabbing in her vagina area??????

I mean come on.

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What about when a baby is killed via a car crashing into the mother's vehicle? Are you for getting rid of the laws that charge that person with manslaughter or murder? I'm just trying to figure out the full scope of your opinion here as it is one i've never seen before

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I think we need a reconciliation between our abortion laws and laws such as this. I mean, if a life is a life, should we treat them all the same?

So as long as abortion is legal, yes, I think that law should change. If abortion is made illegal, then that law should stay.

And if you have never seen an opinion like mine, man you need to get out more. Expand your horizons. You don't have to change your mind (I don't expect you to) but at least educate yourself to thoughts that are different than yours.

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You are taking it to the extreme, but way past logical.

Why would a woman go 39 or 35 or whatever weeks, go through all that entails, get in the room, and right as the baby is about to come out, while the mama is hooked up on drugs and wires etc, jumps up, pushes everyone out of the way, grabs a knife or scissors and starts stabbing in her vagina area??????

I mean come on.

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Logical extreme of your view, not her actions. By the views you’ve set forth, her actions, while nonsensical, should be allowable, no?

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And if you have never seen an opinion like mine, man you need to get out more. Expand your horizons

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Yea, I’m sure there are plenty out there that believe fiscal conservatism trumps all morals no matter what.

Here’s what I’m struggling with in regards to your view. You claim that fiscal conservatism takes precedent every time, no matter what. Yet, you still set mora parameters around your fiscal beliefs. As long as someone isn’t impacting you, they do what they want. They should have the right to kill themselves if they are a drain on society.

However, you should not be able to kill them. How is that consistent? If fiscal responsibility trumps all else, if they refuse to kill themselves, why shouldn’t you be able to do it? That is a moral line. You should not be able to end another’s life.

When it comes to abortion, you just disagree where the moral line is that someone’s life is their own than others do. That’s not an indication of one being more or less fiscally responsible, it’s just a difference in where they draw the moral line that their fiscal responsibility cannot cross.

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I never said "fiscal conservatism trumps all else" - you said I said that, but I didn't.

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Did you forget about this?

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A fiscal conservative cares about finances and money 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, etc

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Again, I think you are confusing "morals" with "legal"

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So do you support legalizing murder? There are times where it could be fiscally responsible to murder someone if they are a drain on society yet refuse to kill themselves.