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Posted on 11/17/25 at 4:12 pm to SlowFlowPro
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where did he use the word "truthful"?
You don’t think a jury hearing “I stand by my testimony” does not mean he is saying it was truthful? That’s a pretty novel argument.
Posted on 11/17/25 at 4:13 pm to SlowFlowPro
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I'm assuming, and could be wrong, it involved GJ stuff that isn't fit for public consumption.
The prosecutor addressing the GJ is not testimony. No reason to redact
Posted on 11/17/25 at 4:13 pm to BBONDS25
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You don’t think a jury hearing “I stand by my testimony” does not mean he is saying it was truthful? That’s a pretty novel argument.
The novel argument is the vicarious testimony theory that you're using.
I'm going to look to see if I can find other examples of this theory.
Posted on 11/17/25 at 4:14 pm to KiwiHead
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Which words, specifically
“I stand by my testimony.” How did that escape you? Goodness you’re slow.
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I can assure you that I did not attend American Samoa University School of Law
You didn’t attend any school of law. SFP knows where I went to law school for my JD. Don’t know if he knows where I got my LL.M. You’re making very poor assumptions here. Dummy.
Posted on 11/17/25 at 4:15 pm to NC_Tigah
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If the jury is interested in justice being done, and if Comey lied in earlier testimony, then he'll go straight to jail.
But you can only be convicted of that for which you are charged. He cannot be charged for his 2017 statements because the SOL expired on them.
Posted on 11/17/25 at 4:15 pm to SlowFlowPro
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The novel argument is the vicarious testimony theory that you're using.
It’s his testimony. Nothing vicarious about it.
Posted on 11/17/25 at 4:16 pm to IvoryBillMatt
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but it is very precise.
Absolutely counter to reality.
Posted on 11/17/25 at 4:17 pm to BBONDS25
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It’s his testimony.
The purported perjury was in 2017.
Now, let me just add that we're all assuming it's perjury for this discussion but that's not a guarantee of victory either.
Was his statement in 2022 untruthful on its own? That he stands by his previous testimony?
Posted on 11/17/25 at 4:17 pm to IvoryBillMatt
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He cannot be charged for his 2017 statements because the SOL expired on them.
He lied in 2022 saying they were true knowing they weren't true.
Posted on 11/17/25 at 4:18 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:He didn't. He said he stands by the testimony he gave. No correction, no clarification. He was given the opportunity to come clean. Instead, he stood by his previous testimony as "truth"
where did he use the word "truthful"?
This post was edited on 11/17/25 at 4:19 pm
Posted on 11/17/25 at 4:20 pm to Turbeauxdog
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He lied in 2022 saying they were true
Did he, though?
Posted on 11/17/25 at 4:20 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:OJ did not commit murder .... VICTORY!
Now, let me just add that we're all assuming it's perjury for this discussion but that's not a guarantee of victory either.
Posted on 11/17/25 at 4:21 pm to BBONDS25
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“I stand by my testimony.”
The indictment doesn't even reference prior testimony. It very specifically quotes what Comey is alleged to have said on September 30, 2020.
Turns out he made no such statement on September 30, 2020. You can't convict someone for lying about something they didn't say.
Posted on 11/17/25 at 4:21 pm to NC_Tigah
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He said he stands by the testimony he gave.
Which isn't an untruthful statement directly, unless you think he no longer stands with his prior testimony.
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Instead, he stood by his previous testimony as "truth"
No. You're adding things to try to make it fit. Nowhere did he state anything about the veracity of those comments or "the truth"
Posted on 11/17/25 at 4:22 pm to NC_Tigah
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OJ did not commit murder .... VICTORY!
No. Not on that level. That gets into a very detailed discussion about the nature of his friend's relationship with the FBI (you can see the Orweillian language usage by Trump's barking dogs to see their fear over the issue if you want to look into it further).
Posted on 11/17/25 at 4:22 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Did he, though?
Yes.
Glad I could help.
Posted on 11/17/25 at 4:23 pm to SlowFlowPro
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No. You're adding things to try to make it fit.
No you're ignoring things to be a feckless contrarian.
Posted on 11/17/25 at 4:23 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:Wow!
OJ did not commit murder .... VICTORY!
No.
Posted on 11/17/25 at 4:24 pm to IvoryBillMatt
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The indictment doesn't even reference prior testimony. It very specifically quotes what Comey is alleged to have said on September 30, 2020.
Turns out he made no such statement on September 30, 2020. You can't convict someone for lying about something they didn't say.
This is another issue, but couldn't they amend the indictment for this? What are the rules, because there is a lot of "facts and circumstances" or other nucleus-relation (whatever standard you want to use and I'm not sure which are used here) for DP concerns over notice to Comey.
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