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re: Comey Admits He Knew Democrats Financed ‘Pee’ Dossier Before FISA Warrant Signoff
Posted on 12/10/18 at 7:17 pm to Decatur
Posted on 12/10/18 at 7:17 pm to Decatur
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The judges that signed off on the applications obviously felt that was sufficient.
Uh, the judges that signed off are pissed off, and rightfully so,that they were misled and granted a FISA that violated a citizen's civil rights.
This post was edited on 12/10/18 at 7:18 pm
Posted on 12/10/18 at 7:19 pm to Ollieoxenfree99
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Uh, the judges that signed off are pissed off,
If our system works the way it was designed, I would expect them to be pissed as well, however I haven’t seen anything reported.
You have anything I can read up on?
This post was edited on 12/10/18 at 7:20 pm
Posted on 12/10/18 at 7:19 pm to Decatur
quote:Meh. Just blackmail them or threaten their children. I don’t care. There is no moral high ground anymore. There is no civility or integrity. Any means necessary.
If you think you can get the federal judges to sign off on it go ahead.
Posted on 12/10/18 at 7:20 pm to Bunyan
So Carlin singed the first false application but then resigned instead of signing the second?
Some well-research blogs out there, btw. I’ve been down the rabbit hole
Some well-research blogs out there, btw. I’ve been down the rabbit hole
Posted on 12/10/18 at 7:20 pm to Ollieoxenfree99
BTW, why can't any lib explain how the FBI said Page was a Russian spy, but just 3 years prior he was working WITH the FBI on a case???
Also, if Page was a Russian spy, wouldn't he be arrested by now?
I need answers to these questions
Also, if Page was a Russian spy, wouldn't he be arrested by now?
I need answers to these questions
Posted on 12/10/18 at 7:21 pm to boosiebadazz
Who was Bob Mueller's chief of staff?
Posted on 12/10/18 at 7:24 pm to Bunyan
I’m going to guess Carlin. I saw where Comey had hired him earlier in his career too
Posted on 12/10/18 at 7:26 pm to Decatur
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Why do you think it matters?
Full disclosure to the court as required by law.
Posted on 12/10/18 at 7:26 pm to Ollieoxenfree99
quote:
the judges that signed off are pissed off, and rightfully so,that they were misled and granted a FISA that violated a citizen's civil rights.
Bingo.
Posted on 12/10/18 at 7:28 pm to Jjdoc
Should be curtains for him, oh wait.....
Posted on 12/10/18 at 7:32 pm to CptBengal
quote:
Comey Admits He Knew Democrats Financed ‘Pee’ Dossier Before FISA Warrant Signoff
think about it....
the former head of the EFF BEE EYE, with nearly unlimited police power and resources admitted to knowingly using falsified information to begin using the most advanced spying apparatus on the planet to monitor a man running for president against who he thought should win.
THATS frickING INSANE
And about 30% of the voting public think it’s awsome, with at least another 30% or so not giving a single shite.
Posted on 12/10/18 at 7:39 pm to CptBengal
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James Comey says that prior to signing a FISA application to obtain a warrant to conduct surveillance on Carter Page, a former adviser to President Trump’s 2016 campaign
I love how none of these reports ever mention that Carter Page was a paid informant for the FBI in another case involving Russian in NY state. Guess the media coincidence detectors are broken (as usual).
This post was edited on 12/10/18 at 7:43 pm
Posted on 12/10/18 at 7:40 pm to BBONDS25
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Full disclosure to the court as required by law.
The judges can always ask for more information if they think they need more info to support PC.
I'm guessing y'all are having a problem with standard minimization. The judges know what they are doing though.
Posted on 12/10/18 at 7:45 pm to Decatur
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The judges know what they are doing though.
Clearly not. They signed off on this warrant (including renewals) based on a fake political hustler article
And lulz at you blaming the judges in this charade
Posted on 12/10/18 at 7:45 pm to Decatur
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Your outrage here is a function of you not understanding the process.
So basically the Trump admin can spy on anyone they please as long as they follow the process and just make shite up? You have no problem with that?
Posted on 12/10/18 at 7:47 pm to Decatur
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The judges can always ask for more information if they think they need more info to support PC.
That’s not the standard. The party seeking the warrant has a duty of full disclosure. You can’t sugar coat an application and put it on the judge to dig. You know this. Not sure why you are defending it. The warrant is still valid on its face...but it shouldn’t be hard for you to admit the ones that filed the application failed to fully disclose.
Posted on 12/10/18 at 7:47 pm to Jjdoc
I would be arrested, charged and held with a high bail if I did this.
Shame
Shame
Posted on 12/10/18 at 7:48 pm to Decatur
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The judges know what they are doing though.
Exactly, which is why Strzokokokolok deliberately set out to recruit a sympathetic judge to see this warrant hearing through a cocktail party arranged by a cutout, thus giving Srokzolozozk plausible deniability if anyone were to later notice he had spoken with the judge prior to the warrant hearing.
Double-pane, soundproof glass windows, and all that.
This post was edited on 12/11/18 at 10:49 am
Posted on 12/10/18 at 8:02 pm to BBONDS25
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That’s not the standard.
It's not?
quote:
Under FISA practice, the first set of interactions often take place at the staff level. The Court’s legal staff frequently interacts with the government in various ways in the context of examining the legal sufficiency of applications before they are presented in final form to a judge. Indeed, in the process of reviewing the government’s applications and submissions in order to provide advice to the judge, the legal staff interact with the government on a daily basis. These daily interactions typically consist of secure telephone conversations in which legal staff ask the government questions about the legal and factual elements of applications or submissions. These questions may originate with legal staff after an initial review of an application or submission, or they may come from a judge.
At the direction of the Presiding Judge or the judge assigned to a matter, Court legal staff sometimes meet with the government in connection with applications and submissions. The Court typically requests such meetings when a proposed application or submission presents a special legal or factual concern about which the Court would like additional information (e.g., a novel use of technology or a request to use a new surveillance or search technique). The frequency of such meetings varies depending on the Court’s assessment of its need for additional information in matters before it and the most conducive means to obtain that information. Court legal staff may meet with the government as often as 2-3 times a week, or as few as 1-2 times a month, in connection with the various matters pending before the Court.
quote:
additional facts to justify the government’s belief that its application meets the legal requirements for the type of authority it is seeking (e.g., in the case of electronic surveillance, that might include additional information to justify the government’s belief that a target of surveillance is a foreign power or an agent of a foreign power . . . or that the target is using or about to use a particular facility . . .; additional facts about how the government intends to implement statutorily required minimization procedures . . .; additional information about the government’s prior implementation of a Court order, particularly if the government has previously failed to comply fully with a Court order; or additional information about novel issues of technology or law.
How the FISA Court Really Works
Posted on 12/10/18 at 8:06 pm to Decatur
Of course it’s not. There is a duty to fully disclose. This is basic stuff. Nowhere in your post does it state the duty to fully disclose is dismissed.
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